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Something Was Wrong

S23 Ep13: Origins Shit Show

01 May 2025

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*Content warning: infant loss, miscarriage, birth trauma, medical trauma, medical neglect, body image abuse, mature and stressful themes.  *Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips: somethingwaswrong.com/resources    Moms Advocating For Moms S23 survivors Markeda, Kristen and Amanda have created a nonprofit, Moms Advocating for Moms, in hopes to create a future where maternal well-being is prioritized, disparities are addressed, and every mother has the resources and support she needs to thrive: https://www.momsadvocatingformoms.org/take-action https://linktr.ee/momsadvocatingformoms  Please sign the survivors petitions below to improve midwifery education and regulation in Texas https://www.change.org/p/improve-midwifery-education-and-regulation-in-texas?recruiter=1336781649&recruited_by_id=74bf3b50-fd98-11ee-9e3f-a55a14340b5a&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=share_for_starters_page&utm_medium=copylink  Malik's Law  https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=89R&Bill=HB4553  M.A.M.A. has helped file a Texas bill called Malik's Law, which is intended to implement requirements for midwives in Texas to report birth outcomes in hopes of improving transparency and data collection in the midwifery field in partnership with Senator Claudia Ordaz.  *Sources: American College of Nurse Midwives https://midwife.org/  American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) https://www.acog.org/   Blood clots and pregnancy https://www.marchofdimes.org/find-support/topics/pregnancy/blood-clots-and-pregnancy#:~:text=Although%20birthing%20people%20with%20blood,both%20you%20and%20your%20baby. Chorioamnionitis https://www.stanfordchildrens.org/en/topic/default?id=chorioamnionitis-90-P02441#:~:text=Chorioamnionitis%20is%20an%20infection%20of,smell%20from%20the%20amniotic%20fluid.   Cross border reproductive care (CBRC): a growing global phenomenon with multidimensional implications (a systematic and critical review) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6063838/#:~:text=In%20vitro%20fertilization%20and%20intracytoplasmic,Belgium%20%5B37%E2%80%9344%5D.  Detection of Proteinuria in Pregnancy: Comparison of Qualitative Tests for Proteins and Dipsticks with Urinary Protein Creatinine Index https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3809617/#:~:text=Background%20and%20Objectives%3A%20Excretion%20of,the%20patient%20or%20her%20pregnancy.  Egg Donation and IVF in Czech Republic https://www.eggdonationfriends.com/ivf-egg-donation-country-czech-republic/#:~:text=in%20Czech%20Republic-,IVF%20cost%20in%20Czech%20Republic,much%20from%20the%20European%20average.&text=It%20also%20needs%20to%20be,frozen%20embryo%20transfer  Fundal Height https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diagnostics/22294-fundal-height  HELLP Syndrome https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21637-hellp-syndrome  High Blood Pressure–Understanding the Silent Killer https://www.fda.gov/drugs/special-features/high-blood-pressure-understanding-silent-killer#:~:text=Normal%20pressure%20is%20120/80,manage%20your%20high%20blood%20pressure?  In vitro fertilization (IVF) https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/in-vitro-fertilization/about/pac-20384716#:~:text=Research%20suggests%20that%20IVF%20slightly,or%20ovarian%20cancer%20after%20IVF%20.  Magnesium - Uses, Side Effects, and More https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-998/magnesium  March of Dimes https://www.marchofdimes.org/peristats/about-us      National Midwifery Institute https://www.nationalmidwiferyinstitute.com/midwifery     North American Registry of Midwives (NARM) https://narm.org/        Placental Abruption https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9435-placental-abruption  Placenta and Heart Research https://www.ohsu.edu/knight-cardiovascular-institute/placenta-and-heart-research#:~:text=By%20the%20end%20of%20pregnancy,area%20for%20uptake%20of%20nutrients.  Postpartum Hemorrhage https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22228-postpartum-hemorrhage  Preeclampsia https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17952-preeclampsia  Preeclampsia - Signs & Symptoms  https://www.preeclampsia.org/signs-and-symptoms#:~:text=Weight%20gain%20of%20more%20than,the%20kidneys%20to%20be%20excreted.&text=Do%20not%20try%20to%20lose%20weight%20during%20pregnancy%20by%20restricting%20your%20diet. Pregnancy weight gain: What's healthy? https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/pregnancy-week-by-week/in-depth/pregnancy-weight-gain/art-20044360  Prothrombin Gene Mutation https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21810-prothrombin-gene-mutation  Prothrombin 20210 Mutation (Factor II Mutation) https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/01.cir.0000135582.53444.87#:~:text=There%20are%20also%20implications%20of,a%20baby%20of%20small%20size.  The Risks of Prothrombin Gene Mutation in Pregnancy https://www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy/prothrombin-gene-mutation#What-Are-the-Risks-of-Prothrombin-Mutation-in-Pregnancy  State investigating Dallas birth center and midwives, following multiple complaints from patients https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/investigates/state-investigating-dallas-birth-center-midwives-following-multiple-complaints-from-patients/287-ea77eb18-c637-44d4-aaa2-fe8fd7a2fcef      Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation (TDLR) https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/      Texas Health, Week by Week  https://www.texashealth.org/baby-care/Week-by-Week    Texas Occupations Code, Chapter 203. Midwives  https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/OC/htm/OC.203.htm What are high blood pressure numbers? https://www.lancastergeneralhealth.org/health-hub-home/2023/february/what-are-high-blood-pressure-numbers#:~:text=Normal:%20Less%20than%20120/80,Avoid%20secondhand%20smoke.  White Coat Syndrome https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23989-white-coat-syndrome  Why Won’t an Attorney Take My Texas Medical Malpractice Case? https://www.hastingsfirm.com/your-case-and-texas-law/  Zucker School of Medicine, Amos Grunebaum, MD https://faculty.medicine.hofstra.edu/13732-amos-grunebaum/publications   24-Hour Urine Collection https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/24hour-urine-collection#:~:text=A%2024%2Dhour%20urine%20collection%20is%20a%20simple%20lab%20test,is%20returned%20to%20the%20lab.  40 years later, why is IVF still not covered by insurance? Economics, ignorance and sexism https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/health/ivf-insurance-parenting-strauss/index.html  *SWW S23 Theme Song & Artwork:  Thank you so much to Emily Wolfe for covering Glad Rag’s original song, U Think U for us this season! Hear more from Emily Wolfe: On Spotify On Apple Music https://www.emilywolfemusic.com/ instagram.com/emilywolfemusic Glad Rags: https:/...

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0.329 - 23.699 Tiffany Reese

Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to Something Was Wrong early and ad-free right now. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Something Was Wrong is intended for mature audiences. This season contains discussions of medical negligence, birth trauma, and infant loss, which may be upsetting for some listeners.

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24.579 - 47.538 Tiffany Reese

For a full content warning, sources, and resources, please visit the episode notes. Opinions shared by the guests of the show are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of myself, Broken Cycle Media, and Wondery. The podcast and any linked materials should not be misconstrued as a substitution for legal or medical advice.

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48.49 - 69.063 Tiffany Reese

Origins birth and wellness owners and midwives Caitlin Wages and Gina Thompson have not responded to our requests for comment. Additionally, midwives Jennifer Crawford and Elizabeth Fuel have also not returned our request for comment. This season is dedicated with love to Malik.

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111.032 - 137.614 Barbie

Hi, I'm Barbie. I am a survivor of Origins birth and wellness. I have three beautiful daughters. Only the first one was what I call an Origins shit show. I'm a pediatric nurse. I do orthopedics and I do children. I don't do pregnancy. Two very different worlds. My husband and I had been trying to have a baby for four years and we found out in June of 2018 that

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138.851 - 157.759 Barbie

We're not going to be able to get pregnant naturally. IVF is the only option. For those that are familiar with IVF, it's not a cheap process, and it's not a guaranteed process. And this is five years ago, so there was not much insurance coverage at all for IVF. We were looking to spend between $20,000 and $30,000 to create a baby.

157.779 - 187.884 Barbie

We found that out in June of 2018, and November of 2018, I found out from an acquaintance that IVF abroad was an option. We wouldn't have the financial burden of IVF. You know, we could pay cash. That's what we decided to do. So we traveled to Zlin, Czech Republic in February of 2019. We did a full round of IVF there. We stayed for three and a half weeks.

188.665 - 208.356 Barbie

I think we spent total was with meds, maybe $6,000. So that's a big cost difference. We transferred two embryos. Leading up to this, there was a ton of lab work that we had to do. And we found out I have a prothumbrin gene mutation, which is a very important factor in this story.

209.508 - 229.977 Tiffany Reese

According to the Cleveland Clinic, a prothrombin gene mutation is an inherited condition that increases predisposition to develop abnormal blood clots in veins and or lungs. This happens because the body makes more of the factor two prothrombin protein than is needed for normal clot formation.

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Blood clots can cause serious problems in the body when they block blood flow, which keeps oxygen from getting to cells.

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