Outsmarting machines and mastering the future | Garry Kasparov

Garry Kasparov knows what it means to play at the edge of human potential. In this episode of Strange Loop, the legendary chess champion and human rights advocate joins Sana founder and CEO Joel Hellermark to explore how chess became the proving ground for AI, why intuition and creativity still matter, and what happens as machines begin to outpace their creators.Together, they dive into the psychological drama of elite competition, the dangers and opportunities of AI in the real world, and the lessons chess offers for the future of knowledge, work, and human agency.What’s in this episodeHow chess became the original proving ground for artificial intelligenceThe psychological edge that separates champions from the restWhy human creativity and intuition still matter in an AI-powered worldThe risks and rewards of rapid technological progressLessons from Kasparov’s own reinvention beyond chessWhat the history of chess vs. machines reveals about the future of knowledge workDefining the human advantage in an age of superhuman computationWhy freedom and adaptability are essential for progress—Transcript: https://sanalabs.com/strange-loop/garry-kasparov—About Strange LoopStrange Loop is a podcast about how artificial intelligence is reshaping the systems we live and work in. Each episode features deep, unscripted conversations with thinkers and builders reimagining intelligence, leadership, and the architectures of progress. The goal is not just to follow AI’s trajectory, but to question the assumptions guiding it.Subscribe for more conversations at the edge of AI and human knowledge.—Timestamps(00:00) Why chess became AI’s proving ground(04:22) Competing against machines—and the end of an era(09:18) Lessons from defeat, and reinvention beyond the board(15:10) The geopolitics of AI and the risk of misuse(22:35) Human strengths: intuition, adaptation, and meaning(28:40) Progress, risk, and the meaning of life(34:20) What comes next for human agency in the AI age —Where to find GarryWebsite: https://kasparov.com/X: https://twitter.com/Kasparov63—Where to find JoelLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-hellermark/X: https://x.com/joelhellermark

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