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Battling For The Heart of Western Civilization | @ CPAC Hungary
Fri, 30 May 2025
Don't miss Ben Shapiro's powerful speech at CPAC Hungary 2025, where he lays out why Western civilization is under threat and why we must fight to preserve it. Speaking in Budapest, he emphasizes that we must protect traditional values, national sovereignty, and cultural identity. Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://bit.ly/3WDjgHE - - - Facts Don’t Care About Your Feelings - - - DailyWire+: This is your last chance for the DailyWire+ Memorial Day Sale! Get 40% off an Annual Membership with code DW40. Don’t miss the all-new Ben After Dark—tonight at 7:30 PM ET, only on DailyWire+. Get your Ben Shapiro merch here: https://bit.ly/3TAu2cw - - - Today's Sponsors: PureTalk - Switch to PureTalk and start saving today! Visit https://PureTalk.com/SHAPIRO Stamps.com - Sign up at https://stamps.com promo code SHAPIRO for a special offer that includes a 4-week trial, plus free postage, and a free digital scale. No long-term commitments or contracts. NetSuite - Download the CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning for free at https://NetSuite.com/SHAPIRO- - - Socials: Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3cXUn53 Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3QtuibJ Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3TTirqd Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPyBiB - - - Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy
Chapter 1: What is the battle for the heart of Western civilization?
Thank you so much for having me, I really appreciate it. It is amazing to be here in Budapest. I want to talk today about the battle for the heart of Western civilization. But to do that, we have to start with a definition of what Western civilization actually is.
Chapter 2: What defines Western civilization?
Western civilization rooted in man's individual liberty and his collective duty, in his freedom of speech and in his duty to act virtuously, in his property rights and in his familial obligations. In the right to the equal application of the law, Western civilization is unique. It is the wellspring of virtually all human prosperity and all human progress.
And Western civilization did not come from nowhere. It came from biblical wisdom, the wisdom of thousands of years of Judeo-Christian tradition. It came from the Bible's admonition that we ought to seek truth through the light of reason. When we cut ourselves off from the sources of our own civilization, our civilization decays. And make no mistake, our civilization is now in the midst of decay.
We can see that decay in the anarchic marchers in the streets, chanting on behalf of radical Islamic terror groups by the hundreds of thousands. We can see it in the push by intellectual elitists for a bizarre alternative morality that suggests the fundamental free-flowing nature of sexual identity, where boys can be girls and behavior ought to be separated utterly from the realm of morality.
Chapter 3: What forces are threatening Western values?
We can see it in the push for an ever-growing domination of a powerful governmental infrastructure, crowding out familial bonds, crowding out church in favor of a faceless state that offers money rather than virtue. We can see it in that crusade against churches that refuse to jettison their values in favor of moral relativism flying rainbow flags.
What are these forces that have mobilized against our civilization? Well, the key force is the force of Western postmodern leftism.
Sure, we can look at the radical Islamists who have invaded Europe, who support terrorism, who use Western governments to impose effective fatwas against Westerners who speak out against them, people who target Jews and Christians, who openly chant for the downfall of the civilization that they leech upon. But the question really isn't radical Islamists.
They, after all, are doing just what they have always done, invading and conquering. The question is why the West allowed them in. And the answer is that the West, thanks to that postmodern left, bears a peculiar and self-defeating blood guilt, a guilt that says that because the West is too successful, it owes it to the rest of the world to destroy itself.
Maybe the most colorful champion of this philosophy was the Marxist existentialist Jean-Paul Sartre. In 1961, a Francophone rebel named Frantz Fanon wrote a shockingly violent book titled The Wretched of the Earth, in which he posited that colonized peoples had a moral duty to kill their colonizers, that they ought to unleash, in his words, red-hot cannonballs and bloody knives.
Frantz Fanon expressed that the colonized man was right to want to rape the wife of his colonizer, to murder him, to take what he had. And Sartre, just a Western leftist, agreed. The West, Sartre said, was an inherent colonizer. Its very success in the world, whether through war or through markets, was a sign of its uniquely rapacious and exploitative nature.
Thus, Sartre argued, Europeans had to die at the hands of their victims. He said, quote, to shoot down a European is to kill two birds with one stone, to destroy an oppressor and the man he oppresses at the same time. Then there remains a dead man and a free man. In other words, Sartre advocated civilizational suicide. And the West largely complied. But why did the West comply?
Now, part of the answer to that lies in the West's pathological and religiously based adherence to the reality of sin and the necessity of repentance. Our culture, Western culture, is a guilt culture, a culture that focuses on the reality of absolute morality and says that when we fail, we are guilty. This means that we feel bad when we sin. That's actually one of our virtues.
But there are lots of other cultures, shame cultures, like, say, the Islamic cultures, or pre-World War II culture of Imperial Japan, or, say, the modern left, that focuses not on any absolute standard of morality, or conscience, but on the evil of being humiliated. For these folks, admitting fault is the weakness.
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Chapter 4: How can European conservatives protect their national identities?
And that means you need to take responsibility for your life and make it better. And without that, it's very easy to slide into the morass. So I think there's a reason why people are going back to church, thank God. I think that there's a God-shaped hole in people's hearts that was opened up by secularism.
People have tried to fill that hole with everything from pornography to chatbots to just the Internet itself or to rage and political polarization. None of that fills the God-shaped hole. The only thing that fills the God-shaped hole is God.
Hello. Mr. Shapiro, allow me to quote Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who said that the strength or weakness of a society depends more on the level of its spiritual life than on its level of industrialization. If a nation's spiritual energies have been exhausted, it will not be saved from collapse by the most perfect government structure or by any industrial development.
A tree with a rotten core cannot stand. Mr. Shapiro, we all see the efforts of the Trump administration, which you support, to improve the industrial and governmental structure of the United States. However, is equally as much being done to reinvigorate the more important spiritual energies of the West? And if so, what?
So this is a great question, and it goes to the heart of what government can actually do in concert with religious institutions. Because the truth is that religious institutions are what we would call intermediary institutions in life, right? You have like you and your family, and then you have the government, which you vote for, but you have no actual relationship.
But then you have these sort of intermediate institutions that you deal with society, these informal societal institutions where you really form all of your social bonds. The question is, what can government do to prop those up and strengthen them?
And, by the way, I totally agree with you that everybody who's looking for reindustrialization to fill the God-shaped hole, again, the only thing that fills the God-shaped hole is God, not a factory job. And so if you're trying to actually fill that God-shaped hole with God again, then what you actually need to do is foster, for example, school choice, religious school choice.
That's something that we in the state of Florida, in Florida we do this. We actually have stipends for everybody who wants to go to private school, and religious schools are really filling the gap. We have huge vouchers for every... Every kid in the state of Florida, and my kids, for example, are recipients. They go to a Jewish day school.
A lot of friends go to Christian schools specifically because of this. That is a big one, obviously. We also need to get government out of the business of crowding out churches. So it used to be that many of the social services that were provided in your community were provided by your church. So in my community, for example, I'll take mine as an example just because I know it the best.
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Chapter 5: What role does religion play in Western civilization?
Chapter 6: Why is the concept of guilt significant in Western culture?
Hello Mr. Shapiro, thank you so much for your speech. I have a question regarding the national identity. So although President Trump took office in Washington DC, here globalist elites in Europe are actually trying to erode our national sovereignty by mass migration and by open border policies.
And my question to you is what do you think, what is the best way for European conservatives to reassert our national identities? And thank you so much in advance.
It's a great question. I mean, I think number one, one place where Hungary clearly has led Europe is in reasserting its national identity, specifically with regard to rejecting mass migration from areas that absolutely reject Western civilization as a whole.
And you guys are paying, I believe, something like a million euros a day for the privilege right now, thanks to the predations of the European Union. I think that you are starting to see a rising tide that is going to reject mass migration. That rising tide is happening in France. It's obviously happening in Germany.
It's actually happened in Denmark, where a left-wing party has radically restricted immigration. So I think that the era of open migration is over. This is one area where the prime minister He was ahead of his time. He took an enormous amount of flak for doing what Hungary did. And time has proved him right.
And nations that refuse to protect their own border are nations that are going to suffer for it. And the populations of those nations know it. Now, obviously, there are people in a variety of powerful roles who are attempting to stop democracy from actually working in many of these countries. You'll see an upsurge in...
right-wing or conservative or anti-mass immigration sentiment, and then it will sort of be shoveled off to the side because no one really wants to talk about it, but you can only suppress that for so long. That situation for supposedly center-right or center-left parties that are siding with the radical left on these issues
eventually the lid is going to blow off of that jar, and what's going to come out is going to be the sentiment of Europeans that they do not actually wish to have their cultures discarded in favor of a failed multiculturalism that has destroyed every state it's touched.
Hi, Ben. I'm here. It's an honor to ask you. My name is Balazs, and my question is the following. Secularism has hollowed out the spiritual core of the Western civilization. How can conservatism survive in such conditions in a godless culture, and how can we actively Reintroduce the Judeo-Christian values set to our societies to ensure order and real meaning.
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Chapter 7: How can conservatism survive in a secular culture?
I've been calling for an off-ramp in Ukraine since August of 2022. But if you actually want to get Vladimir Putin to an off-ramp, you actually need to up the pressure on Putin because Zelensky right now is actually giving Trump everything he wants. He gave him a 30-day ceasefire. He's giving him the rare earth minerals deal.
he's giving him the possibility of a face-to-face negotiation with Putin, no preconditions. And Putin, meanwhile, is doing none of those things. And so the only way to get Putin to the table, presumably, is to up the ante on the pressure with an eye toward an off-ramp. Now, is that something that J.D. Vance wants? I have no idea. I have no idea what J.D. wants.
I'm not sure what the president's foreign policy is. With regard to Ukraine, it seems to shift fairly frequently. And again, there's something to strategic ambiguity, but there's a point where strategic ambiguity, like you don't know what he's going to do next, so don't screw with this guy. There's a point where strategic ambiguity shifts over into just pure uncertainty.
And America's enemies can take uncertainty as a sign of weakness, and that's one of my concerns.
Hi Ben, Malka, fellow Orthodox Jew. And my question was, we have 10 kids and we moved out of the States because of how intense and invasive the woke culture has gotten in the States. And my question is, how do you think Donald Trump, if he can stall this decline in the US, if he can reinstate conservative values, what do you think? What is your opinion on this?
So I do think that woke culture is on kind of its last legs in the United States. By this I mean that 10 years ago, when I was saying that boys are not girls, I was nearly kicked off of every social media platform. Now that is actual government policy from the White House on down.
And I think that there's been a very harsh reaction to the woke philosophy, which essentially suggests, in essence, that every disparity in outcome is due to discrimination. That if one group does worse than another group, it must be because the system is designed in order to harm that group. I think the American people are tired of that.
I think that's why some of the most popular stuff that President Trump has done is taking on, for example, diversity, equity, and inclusion, which is just wokeness, or taking on the trans agenda in the United States, which, again, is really unpopular in the United States. I think that wokeness has a real problem on its hands.
Now, the thing that I'm fearful of is that all the good that President Trump is doing How long does it last? Is there a reversion back to woke in the aftermath of President Trump? And the answer there is going to be determined by how successful President Trump is on sort of the baseline governance things. If the economy remains very strong, I think wokeness is in serious trouble for the long haul.
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Chapter 8: What solutions exist for restoring Judeo-Christian values?
I mean, the answer is absolutely sometimes. I mean, my hope would be that the emotional argument comes atop a layer of facts. It's sort of a pie in which the crust of the pie, the base of the pie, is going to be the facts.
do have to put in some emotional content that appeals to the heartstrings if you hope to actually foster a positive agenda sometimes because of course people are emotional creatures and ignoring that would be a strategic mistake so i agree with that i think that when the emotions substitute for the facts that's where i start to lose it and and i again i'm not sure that that's only a left-wing phenomenon i think it's a universal human phenomenon you sometimes see this on the right
which is why the right will drift into sort of conspiracy theories. They'll say, I don't care about the facts. There must be somebody who's attempting to screw me. It's probably the small cadre of people. And if there's no facts to back that, I'm very uninterested in that take. If there are facts to back it, now you're talking about something completely different. So again, I think you're right.
The foundation has to be facts. But yeah, sure, you're going to have to build some sort of emotional superstructure atop that if you hope to be convincing.
Hi, Ben. I'm Shalom. I'm a big fan. And my question is about what people like to call lately the woke right. So as we all see and all observe in the last two years since the war began in Israel, that more and more pretty prominent conservative voices in America started to say sometimes subtle, sometimes not as subtle and quite explicit anti-Semitic stuff.
And for me, as an Israeli Jew, that's pretty worrying because I always saw the conservative movement in America as a natural ally. So my question is, how much of a percentage does that represent of conservatives in America? How much are you worried about it? And how do you think we should reply or we should deal with this new phenomenon?
So, first of all, I'm not a huge fan of the term woke right because I think that it obscures more than it illuminates. And so I'll try to be very specific about who I think you're talking about and you tell me if I'm wrong. I think that the philosophy of the people that you are referring to essentially says that there is, just like the left, a group of people who are put upon
And that group of people who are put upon are put upon by an elite cadre of people. Here they're often name-checked Jews or Israelis or Israeli foreign aid. And that's what's making their life bad. In the same way that the left will argue that every disparity is in fact discrimination, that every... thing that is unequal between two parties must be because someone is harming the other party.
The right is doing some of that same stuff, but their victim group is different. So the left might say that it's blacks in America. The right might say that it's white Appalachian people in America. But the similarity is in the idea that there is a victim group and a victimizer group, and success is an indicator of victimizer status. And so is that a problem on the right? Absolutely.
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