Read between the theological lines of C.S. Lewis’ classic masterpiece and religious satire, penned from the POV of a demon serving in the bureaucracy of Hell. Ben explores the wildly comic and strikingly original letters from one demon to another, as the pair seek to undermine the Christian faith and tempt man into extravagantly wicked and deplorable sins. - - - Today’s Sponsor: PureTalk - Exclusive discount for our listeners at: https://www.PureTalk.com/Shapiro
Chapter 1: What is the main theme of The Screwtape Letters?
Hey, hey, welcome. This is the Ben Shapiro Show. So folks, here at Daily Wire, we have something called Ben Shapiro's Book Club. It's exactly what it sounds like. I read books with you. Well, one of the books that I read with you over the course of the last year and a half or so was The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis. Here's a bit of our discussion. C.S.
Lewis' The Screwtape Letters is all at once a deep rumination on religion, a high comedy rooted in the hilarity of both humanity's flaws and Satan's foibles, a tragedy about the nature of death, and a tale of redemption and everlasting life. There is so much to unpack here, we're going to do all of that in just one second. First, let's turn to some thoughts from the community.
Edward says, Ben, how in your life do you find that balance in loving others and yourself so you can objectively give yourself credit for accomplishments without being selfish or arrogant? This is an important lesson people can use in not just everyday life, but also the workplace.
Well, you know, I think that people tend to mislabel humility or misdefine humility as telling lies about yourself, and that's not true. When the Bible suggests that Moses was the most humble person who ever lived, that didn't mean that Moses didn't know what he had or who he was. What it means is that he attributed his qualities to God, because it was God who was the source of those abilities.
So when you do what you're supposed to do in life, that's not really... you at all. You're just doing what you're supposed to do. You don't get extra credit for doing the things that you're supposed to do. You do blame yourself for failing where you're supposed to succeed.
Also, you have to surround yourself in life with a group of people who are willing to tell you when you're wrong, and you have to be willing to hear that group of people. So don't surround yourself with an echo chamber. You have to allow enough criticism in to actually allow you to better yourself while preventing people who wish to tear you down from doing so.
And there are a lot of people out there who are like that. Ramona says, Has this book been insightful for you at all? I miss your Jewish teachings and wish that would be a new show of yours. I appreciate all that you do. God bless. Well, maybe we'll be doing some more of that sort of stuff next year. The book is fantastic. I mean, I love C.S. Lewis. I love pretty much everything C.S. Lewis writes.
Most of what he writes is applicable across religions. Obviously, his specific defenses of Christian theology, his apologetics for Christianity, I disagree with a lot of that stuff. But when it comes to his overall take on the Bible and religion, I very much agree with an enormous amount of that. Charles says, It's scary how each book you pick relates to the current state of our country.
Do you believe we can survive as a country? We were founded on religious principles, which have been removed by our current government. I don't see a way forward without returning to God. We as conservatives must lead a revival in religion. I totally agree with this, obviously. Religion doesn't just provide the communal gathering place for people of like mind. It also provides an aim to shoot for.
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Chapter 2: How can we balance self-love and humility?
If you can prevent people from doing that sort of stuff, you end up with a very materialistic society. So what exactly does reality mean? Well, according to Screwtape, people ought to be taught that in all experiences which can make them happier or better, only the physical facts are real, while the spiritual elements are subjective.
And in all experiences which can discourage or corrupt them, the spiritual elements are the main reality, and to ignore them is to be an escapist. So the idea is that when you're thinking about death, that the only thing that is real is the death. You're not supposed to look to the spiritual element of death.
Or if you look at something that makes you very happy, you're not supposed to look to the spiritual element of what makes you very happy. Just focus in on the pure materialism of the thing. The goal is to enmesh mankind in the world. And this is something that Catholic theologians talk about a lot.
The idea that the spiritual world, if you can enmesh it in reality too much, then you can bring people away from the reality of something higher. This means, for example, that you have to get people to stop thinking about death. It says, Screwtape says, How disastrous for us is the continual remembrance of death which war enforces.
One of our best weapons, contented worldliness, is rendered useless. In wartime, not even a human can believe that he is going to live forever. The material world, then, is the chief ally of Screwtape because people desire not to think of God. God is a distraction. God has obligations. God has duties.
Screwtape says human beings hate every idea that suggests him, just as men in financial embarrassment hate the very sight of a passbook. Passbook meaning like a checkbook. So the idea is that if you're not thinking about duty and then you're forced to think about duty, you don't like it very much. The other thing that Screwtape tries to get you to focus in on is the future at all times.
If you can focus in on the future at all times, then people will be very neglectful of the president. So, says Screwtape, it's far better to make them live in the future. The future is, of all things, the thing least like eternity. It is the most completely temporal part of time. For the past is frozen, it no longer flows. The present is all lit up with eternal rays.
Hence the encouragement we have given to all those schemes of thought, like creative evolution, scientific humanism, or communism, which fix men's affections on the future on the very core of temporality. Hence nearly all vices are rooted in the future. See, the idea is if you're thinking about the future,
then you're not thinking about the spiritual consequences of the things you do in the here and now. You're thinking about the material consequences of the things that you do in the here and now, and that allows you to do bad things in the name of a quote-unquote better future.
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