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Ben Shapiro’s Book Club | The Screwtape Letters

02 Jan 2025

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Read between the theological lines of C.S. Lewis’ classic masterpiece and religious satire, penned from the POV of a demon serving in the bureaucracy of Hell. Ben explores the wildly comic and strikingly original letters from one demon to another, as the pair seek to undermine the Christian faith and tempt man into extravagantly wicked and deplorable sins.   - - -   Today’s Sponsor:   PureTalk - Exclusive discount for our listeners at: https://www.PureTalk.com/Shapiro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0.424 - 16.577 Ben Shapiro

Hey, hey, welcome. This is the Ben Shapiro Show. So folks, here at Daily Wire, we have something called Ben Shapiro's Book Club. It's exactly what it sounds like. I read books with you. Well, one of the books that I read with you over the course of the last year and a half or so was The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis. Here's a bit of our discussion. C.S.

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16.637 - 34.165 Ben Shapiro

Lewis' The Screwtape Letters is all at once a deep rumination on religion, a high comedy rooted in the hilarity of both humanity's flaws and Satan's foibles, a tragedy about the nature of death, and a tale of redemption and everlasting life. There is so much to unpack here, we're going to do all of that in just one second. First, let's turn to some thoughts from the community.

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34.386 - 45.51 Ben Shapiro

Edward says, Ben, how in your life do you find that balance in loving others and yourself so you can objectively give yourself credit for accomplishments without being selfish or arrogant? This is an important lesson people can use in not just everyday life, but also the workplace.

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45.85 - 64.195 Ben Shapiro

Well, you know, I think that people tend to mislabel humility or misdefine humility as telling lies about yourself, and that's not true. When the Bible suggests that Moses was the most humble person who ever lived, that didn't mean that Moses didn't know what he had or who he was. What it means is that he attributed his qualities to God, because it was God who was the source of those abilities.

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64.215 - 77.054 Ben Shapiro

So when you do what you're supposed to do in life, that's not really... you at all. You're just doing what you're supposed to do. You don't get extra credit for doing the things that you're supposed to do. You do blame yourself for failing where you're supposed to succeed.

77.314 - 91.56 Ben Shapiro

Also, you have to surround yourself in life with a group of people who are willing to tell you when you're wrong, and you have to be willing to hear that group of people. So don't surround yourself with an echo chamber. You have to allow enough criticism in to actually allow you to better yourself while preventing people who wish to tear you down from doing so.

91.58 - 106.763 Ben Shapiro

And there are a lot of people out there who are like that. Ramona says, Has this book been insightful for you at all? I miss your Jewish teachings and wish that would be a new show of yours. I appreciate all that you do. God bless. Well, maybe we'll be doing some more of that sort of stuff next year. The book is fantastic. I mean, I love C.S. Lewis. I love pretty much everything C.S. Lewis writes.

107.363 - 126.869 Ben Shapiro

Most of what he writes is applicable across religions. Obviously, his specific defenses of Christian theology, his apologetics for Christianity, I disagree with a lot of that stuff. But when it comes to his overall take on the Bible and religion, I very much agree with an enormous amount of that. Charles says, It's scary how each book you pick relates to the current state of our country.

127.149 - 144.356 Ben Shapiro

Do you believe we can survive as a country? We were founded on religious principles, which have been removed by our current government. I don't see a way forward without returning to God. We as conservatives must lead a revival in religion. I totally agree with this, obviously. Religion doesn't just provide the communal gathering place for people of like mind. It also provides an aim to shoot for.

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