The Bill Simmons Podcast
Haliburton’s Brilliant Game 4, the Reeling Knicks, and OKC’s All Grown Up With Zach Lowe
28 May 2025
The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Zach Lowe to react to Knicks-Pacers Game 4 (5:39). Then, they discuss Tyrese Haliburton and the Pacers rising to the occasion in these playoffs (33:35). Finally, they talk about Bill’s top 15 NBA player pyramid, OKC-Timberwolves Game 4, and much more (58:26). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Zach Lowe Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo Get anything delivered on Uber Eats. www.ubereats.com The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Full Episode
It's the Bill Simmons podcast. We have a ton of basketball coming up next with Zach Lowe. We're going to talk about Knicks Pacers game four. The Tyrese Halliburton is a superstar game, or at least a really good star. I wanted to use this opportunity at the top to talk to the Boston Red Sox owners. They won the title in 2018.
They won the World Series, the fourth World Series of this century from a baseball team. And then two years later, they traded Mookie Betts. in the most cowardly way. I think, I don't remember if COVID had started yet or it was about to start or whatever, but they, all of a sudden he's out. They got 5 cents on the dollar farm.
Ironically, the last guy on the team available, uh, from that trade was Connor Wong, who was hitting 149 and came up with the bases loaded, uh, in the Memorial day game. And if he made an out, they lost the game. And of course he made an out cause he was over 18 and runner scoring position. I've been watching a lot of Red Sox this year. Uh,
I boycotted the team pretty much for the last couple of years because I was so upset about the Mookie Betts trade. It was basically my version of Luka and Dallas and everything that happened there. It was such an indefensible, terrible trade. And then he goes to the Dodgers and he's awesome for them. And it really made me mad. And I just decided I just need to take a break from the Red Sox.
And this year I got back into it because Christian Campbell came up. Marcella Meyer was about to come up and Roman Anthony, who's the best prospect in baseball. And this Red Sox team, which I think they're over under in Fando is 86 and a half. My friend Kevin Hench went on Brian Barrett's Off the Pike podcast Monday and came in in the 17 minute mark.
And it was right after he had another one run loss. And I think they've had 30. And Hench's response to the first question was almost 10 minutes long. It was one of the most incredible podcasting moments I've heard on the ringer. He's getting madder and madder as it's going, which is exactly how I felt.
Everybody who likes the Red Sox feel this year, they have this situation where they won't call up Roman Anthony, the best prospect in baseball. And they weren't calling up Marcelo Meyer either. But then Alex Bregman, who is the best hitter on the team, he gets hurt.
So they won't call up Anthony because there's some weird service time thing where if he wins rookie of the year or finishes second, he gets to lose a year of his service time, which makes it a year closer to him getting a giant free agent deal. And all of this would be fine.
If we were the fucking Pittsburgh Pirates, or if we were whatever the athletics are called, I think they're just called the athletics, or we were whatever other small market team. This team's in Boston. It's an absolute money machine. Who the fuck cares whether Roman Anthony is going to become a free agent year early?
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