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The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Future of Everything With Derek Thompson

19 Mar 2025

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The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Derek Thompson for another edition of The Future of Everything, during which they discuss Derek and Ezra Klein’s new book ‘Abundance,’ before sharing their predictions for the future of politics, tech, sports, and culture. Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Derek Thompson Producers: Kyle Crichton and Chia Hao Tat This episode is sponsored by State Farm®. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.® The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0.229 - 20.429 Bill Simmons

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20.449 - 41.53 Bill Simmons

And by the way, The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit theringer.com slash RG to learn more. Listen to the end of this episode for additional details. Must be 21 plus presidents like states. Game and problem call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com. Coming up, the future of everything with Derek Thompson next. We're also brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network.

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41.71 - 64.425 Bill Simmons

Put up a new Prestige TV podcast. We did the White Lotus episode five recap, aka the Sam Rockwell episode. Fantastic. Check that out. It's a video podcast on Spotify. So is the new Rewatchables. We put up Days of Thunder. Me and Kyle Brandt and Chris Ryan. Tom Cruise's 16th rewatchables movies. He's got a three movie lead over De Niro and Pacino at this point.

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65.146 - 84.823 Bill Simmons

Speaking of video podcasts, Amy Poehler's new podcast, Good Hang with Amy Poehler. We launched it today. Very excited about it. You can listen to her talk to Martin Short. That's an episode. You can listen to her talk to Tina Fey. That's an episode. And we put a lot of time and work and effort into this. And Amy's the best. So I really hope this podcast becomes humongous.

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84.883 - 100.214 Bill Simmons

And I don't know why it wouldn't. Because again, Amy is the best. So congrats to her coming up on this podcast. Speaking of the best, we have Derek Thompson from the Plain English podcast. Every once in a while, he pops on and we talk about the future of everything. We have a gimmick for this. You've probably heard it in the past.

100.534 - 143.96 Bill Simmons

And we're going to do it again after we hear from our friends from Pearl Jam. All right, we're recording this on a Tuesday. Always fun to have this guy. I would do the future of everything concept, but he's on a little book tour. He's dressed up. Never seen him in a tie before. I'm just one of many stops, but I booked it super early.

144.02 - 165.744 Bill Simmons

I'm pumped because future of everything is clearly one of the nine most important things you're doing today. Derek Thompson, host of Plain English. New co-author of a book called Abundance with Ezra Klein that came out this week, today. And I'm just going to say it. I feel like you lucked out that this didn't come out last year. Timing seems perfect.

166.601 - 184.211 Derek Thompson

It's interesting. Ezra and I had a conversation maybe, I don't know, I guess a full year ago now where the book was being extended, right? Ezra and I were just, we were busy. I was doing my podcast. He was doing his podcast. We couldn't quite finish the book in time. The book was supposed to come out just before the Democratic National Convention happened. of last year.

184.231 - 205.929 Derek Thompson

And I remember thinking like, man, it's too bad that our book can't come out and shape the messaging for the Democratic Party in 2024. At this point, for better or for worse, and there's certainly a lot of worse if you're a Democrat, I think there's a moment right now where there's a lot of people asking, what's the future of the Democratic Party? We're polling at 29% according to CNN.

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