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So please listen with care. People talk about the Texas sky. It's big, grand, but there's more to it than that. There's a sense of perspective, awe even, that holds its lovers captive. And under that wide canvas, the human drama plays out, small and terrifying below. By the late 1980s, the drama that surrounded Terry Hoffman's small circle was beginning to bleed out from its protective covering.
Hi, my name is Pete Slover and I'm an attorney in Austin, Texas. At the time that the Hoffman case was unfolding, I was a reporter for the Dallas Morning News.
Pete was a cub reporter in the 80s when he joined the paper. And for one of his first big stories, he started looking into Terry and her group. By then, Devereux Cleaver had drowned. Glenn Cooley overdosed. Sandra and Louise had driven off a cliff. Don Hoffman had taken his life in a hotel on account of cancer he didn't have.
I didn't see anything that was obvious that would explain their deaths, but what I did see was Terry Hoffman's name recurring in multiple places.
How could one person seemingly have been in the right place at the right time to benefit from so many deaths, so many suicides?
It's easy to kind of roll up these series of events into one kind of crazy story. But at the same time, you have to think of each one of these victims as being deeply affected and arguably their lives ruined, their family members' lives ruined by these circumstances. So that's a huge thing.
So Pete went looking for answers.
I talked to her on the phone.
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