
Crypto should be one of the biggest stories out of the Trump administration, but the crypto guys are really good at making it seem more complicated than it is. Bloomberg's Zeke Faux joins Tim to run down the ins-and-outs, and the players—including the Chinese businessman facing SEC charges who swears the $56 million he gave Trump has absolutely nothing, zero, zilch to do with his case. Meanwhile, we're about to find out how much Republicans really care about the deficit with the coming budget, and the Democrats must not cave. Plus, Elon's crappy math, America would not get anything out of Trump's deal with Russia, and Tuesday's violence in an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood in Brooklyn. Rep. Jared Moskowitz and Zeke Faux join Tim Miller. show notes Zeke's book, "Number Go Up: Inside Crypto's Wild Rise and Staggering Fall" Zeke on Chris Hayes's podcast
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Hello and welcome to the Borg Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Super pumped to have a reporter today who is focused on something that I'm obsessed with. He's the investigative reporter for Bloomberg Businessweek and Bloomberg News and author of Number Go Up, Inside Crypto's Wild Rise and Staggering Fall, out now in paperback. It's Zeke Fox to talk all things crypto. How are you doing, Zeke?
Great. Thanks for having me on, Tim. Dude, thanks for doing this. I'm obsessed with this. I'm of the view that the crypto scams will probably be a top three to five story of the Trump years when all is said and done. And I think that a lot of the media outlets don't give this quite as much attention because the demographics of the news consumers don't overlap with the crypto world much.
A lot of them don't really even understand it. And then a lot of the people in the journalist world... have such contempt or just like culturally or separate from the types of folks that are really into crypto. And so it leads to like not getting ignored.
And obviously you're not ignoring it, but I'm wondering if you kind of agree with my assessment of, obviously I would assume you agree that this is undercover. It's your beat. I'm wondering what you think about that, about my assessment for why. Yeah.
Definitely. I mean, the crypto guys are very good at making it seem like they have a lot of jargon. They make it seem like there's some sort of really complicated and important technology that we're talking about. And it makes you think in the back of your mind, if you don't know that much about this, or even if you do, you're like, it can't possibly be as dumb as it sounds, could it?
And the answer is yes.
And in fact, it's even dumber. Yeah. Okay, so I want to do just a little bit of Crypto 101 for our listeners that don't follow this stuff. But if this brief Crypto 101 lesson isn't enough, you did Chris Hayes' Why Is This Happening pod a couple weeks ago, and it was like 45 minutes of Crypto 101. It was really good. So I direct people to that.
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