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The Bulwark Podcast

S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

09 Apr 2025

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The White House is pumping out a lot of happy talk about countries wanting to make deals over the tariffs, but the tumult Trump has created has spread to the bond market. And that may be a sign that he has people so spooked about the U.S. economy that our Treasuries are no longer seen as a safe bet. Meanwhile, China has a lot of leverage here and may be using it.  Plus, the Democrats' candidate recruiter for the midterms, Colorado's Jason Crow, discusses how to win back working class voters.  Catherine Rampell and Rep. Jason Crow join Tim Miller. show notes Catherine's column, "Who will tell Trump he’s naked?" Catherine's column on the Senate GOP tax plan NYT profile of Jason Crow 

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8.208 - 28.534 Tim Miller

Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. We got a double header today. Congressman Jason Crowe from Colorado in segment two. But first, delighted to bring back a syndicated opinion columnist at the Washington Post. She's joining MSNBC as co-anchor for a new weekend show. Also a special correspondent for the NewsHour. She's busy. It's Catherine Rampell. What's up?

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29.374 - 30.475 Catherine Rampell

Doing okay. How are you?

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31.948 - 33.97 Tim Miller

Doing okay? Personally, I'm well.

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34.01 - 38.852 Catherine Rampell

Well, I don't know. My 401k doesn't look great. Democracy doesn't look great. But I have my health.

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39.052 - 39.513 Tim Miller

Yeah.

39.773 - 41.734 Catherine Rampell

That's what I'm supposed to tell myself, right?

42.294 - 55.241 Tim Miller

And we have a long path in front of us. The college fund, I still got 11 years to rebound the 401k after today. It's not the 401k, but the college savings account.

55.402 - 58.143 Catherine Rampell

Well, you're assuming colleges will still be around.

58.163 - 59.184 Tim Miller

That's a good point.

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