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The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

Ten years of freeCodeCamp (Friends)

Fri, 25 Oct 2024

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At the tail end of 2019, we got together with Quincy Larson to celebrate ten years of Changelog & five years of freeCodeCamp by recording back-to-back episodes on each other's pods. Can you believe it's now five years later and we're all still here doing our thing?! Let's learn what Quincy and the amazing community at freeCodeCamp have been up to!

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0.59 - 34.861 Adam and Jared

Finally it's time for changelogging friends With Adam and Jared and some other rando We hope that you love it and stay until the end We're not offended if you can't go We know you're probably busy coding And your deadline is pretty foreboding Your caffeine intake is an actual problem, so why don't we walk outside? And we can listen to Change Logging Friends with Adam and Jared in Silicon Valley.

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34.881 - 51.598 Adam and Jared

We know one day the gag will come to an end, but honestly, that will probably be our finale. We bet you sling A1s and 0s

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53.832 - 82.814 Adam and Jared

And that makes you one of our heroes Your list of to-do's will be waiting for you So why don't we walk outside And we can listen to Change Logging Friends With Adam and Jerry and people you know Change Logging Friends Let's get back into the flow Change Logging Friends Change Logging Friends It's your favorite ever show Favorite ever show

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100.545 - 119.424 Adam

Welcome to Changelog and Friends, a weekly talk show all about that bass. Special thanks to our partners at Fly.io, the public cloud built for devs who ship. Deploy your app in five minutes or less at Fly.io. Okay, let's talk.

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124.059 - 134.125 Jared

What's up, nerds? I'm here with Kurt Mackey, co-founder and CEO of Fly. You know we love Fly. So, Kurt, I want to talk to you about the magic of the cloud. You have thoughts on this, right?

134.525 - 148.594 Quincy Larson

Right. I think it's valuable to understand the magic behind a cloud because you can build better features for users, basically, if you understand that. You can do a lot of stuff, particularly now that people are doing LLM stuff. But you can do a lot of stuff if you get that and can be creative with it.

149.008 - 158.139 Jared

So when you say clouds aren't magic because you're building a public cloud for developers and you go on to explain exactly how it works, what does that mean to you?

158.599 - 175.277 Quincy Larson

In some ways, it means these all came from somewhere. Like there was a simpler time before clouds where we'd get a server at Rackshack and we'd SSH or Telnet into it even and put files somewhere. and run the web servers ourselves to serve them up to users. Clouds are not magic on top of that.

175.357 - 195.034 Quincy Larson

They're just more complicated ways of doing those same things in a way that meets the needs of a lot of people instead of just one. One of the things I think that people miss out on, and a lot of this is actually because AWS and GCP have created such big black box abstractions. Lambda is really black boxy. You can't pick apart Lambda and see how it works from the outside. You have to sort of

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