Do You Need A Full Body MRI Scan? | Prenuvo CEO

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What is a full body MRI scan?

John Smith 0:00
My experience had been pretty underwhelming in the context of preventive care. It was a checkout that was absent any real unique insight that I didn't really know myself. I wanted to go a layer deeper.
Jane Doe 0:12
Celebrities like Kim Kardashian have jumped on the wave of support of a new kind of preventative care.

How did Andrew Lacey start Prenuvo?

Andrew Lacey 0:19
It comes with a hefty price tag. We're talking about Pernuvo's full-body MRI scans.
John Smith 0:24
One could hypothesize that I'm a visitor from another planet, and on my planet, we screen everyone. You know, I take you back to my plant and say, well, let me propose to you that you don't screen anyone. My population would laugh you off the planet.
Jane Doe 0:36
Why are there no major United States organizations that are recommending this?
John Smith 0:40
I don't think there's any evidence that consumers consider themselves harmed by these screenings.
Jane Doe 0:44
The burden should fall when you're testing healthy people to prove that it causes benefit rather to prove that it causes harm. Welcome to the Checkup Podcast. Today, my guest is Andrew Lacey, CEO of Pernuvo, a company that's at the forefront of whole body MRI scanning, a technology that aims to catch potential health issues before they become serious problems. You may have recently seen the company's technology in headlines or on Kim Kardashian's Instagram, spurring excitement, intrigue, and even some controversy. You see, major medical organizations, including the American College of Radiology and the United States Preventive Service Task Force do not recommend routine whole body scans for people without symptoms or specific risk factors.

Who can access Prenuvo's MRI scans?

Jane Doe 1:29
There are concerns about false positives, unnecessary follow-up procedures, the cost effectiveness, and most importantly, if the proposed benefits actually outweigh the risks. Despite that, advocates of this technology argue that those concerns are overblown and that the scans can provide peace of mind and potentially detect conditions early when they're most treatable. In today's conversation, we dive right into addressing those controversies head on, as well as the science of the scans and how Pernuvo is handling being at the forefront of this emerging field. As a reminder, if you hear this sound, That means there is a fact check that is linked down below to a separate unlisted video that you could click on during or after the presentation to just get a bit more info.
Caroline Weigum 2:14
Do you know this one friend who just comes out of bed in the morning and then doesn't come out of a grin? Who is even in front of the first coffee, shamelessly well-groomed and shines around the bed with the morning sun? Terrible. Disgusting. How can you just be so... Restless?
Doctor Mike 2:30
Very simple. Train your sleep and become a morning person. With the Galaxy Watch 7 or the Galaxy Ring and the Samsung Health app.

Can Prenuvo's scans save lives?

Jane Doe 2:40
You're a business person. You were working, starting multiple businesses. I believe it was four at the time. And then you found a passion in treating, talking about, and fixing the healthcare space. How did you get there?
John Smith 2:55
Well, the starting point really was I was a serial entrepreneur for probably the first 20 years of my career. And I was a typical entrepreneur. I didn't sleep enough. I didn't eat enough.
Doctor Mike 3:08
I didn't exercise enough.
John Smith 3:11
I had a lot of stress. Some of those things, by the way, are still true because I am still an entrepreneur. But I remember one day just waking up and looking in the mirror and saying, hey, we're doing this to make the world a better place. What guarantees do I have that I'm going to be around for this future that I'm trying to create? And in that moment, I had just taken my car to a new body shop. And my car was asymptomatic.
Jane Doe 3:38
So you were going for a preventive checkup.
John Smith 3:39
I was going for a preventive checkup of my car. And what I got back from the shop, maybe they all do it this way now, but I got a 30-page report of every component in my car, the engine, the transmission, the clutch, the brake pads, the wiper fluid, what was running low, where were the brake pads wearing, How was the way I was riding the clutch sort of like affecting the wear and tear on that component? How I could drive my car better? What needed to replace now? What could be replaced in the future? What should I watch? And I just had this like moment of like complete dissonance.

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