Chuck begins with house Republicans struggling to pass their “Big Beautiful Bill” and reflecting on the president’s ability to influence the culture versus imposing on the culture.Then, Chuck welcomes Spencer Kornhaber, staff writer at The Atlantic to discuss his piece on contemporary pop culture and its perceived decline in quality. They dive into the impact of streaming algorithms impacting music discovery, revealing that old music now earns three times the streams of new releases as algorithms trigger nostalgia rather than innovation. The conversation explores how the music industry has lost its traditional gatekeepers, leading to a landscape where new music often sounds "rehashed and doesn't move the ball forward," while examining whether rock music has stopped evolving and how country music is experiencing a resurgence. They also tackle the growing influence of AI on music production and debate whether algorithms, despite their flaws, are actually helping people discover music in different languages and cultures.The discussion expands to examine whether television represents the one area where pop culture is genuinely "better than ever," with prestige TV becoming the cultural center and episodic storytelling reshaping moviemaking. They explore the "Barbenheimer summer" phenomenon as evidence that theatrical experiences still matter, before diving into literature's current state amid declining readership among younger generations. They debate whether high-resolution photography and AI are diminishing visual arts, speculate about experiences becoming the next major art form for Gen Z, and examine how competition with AI might actually make human artists more innovative. They conclude by discussing the enduring popularity of live elements in sports and music—with Bad Bunny and Taylor Swift reigning as pop royalty—while questioning who truly rules Hollywood and acknowledging the surprising innovations happening in live theater.Finally he addresses listeners’ questions in the Ask Chuck segment, weighing in on Europe’s race to rearm itself, his preferred voting method to incentivize legislative compromise and whether the questions surrounding Joe Biden’s decline will loom over the 2028 presidential race.Timeline:00:00 Introduction00:30 Republicans struggling to pass the “Big Beautiful Bill”02:00 Partisan governance is bad governance03:30 The bill will pass, it’s just a matter of when05:45 We’re in a “culture cold war”08:00 Should political leaders impose culture, or influence it?09:45 Who we elect as president is reflective of the culture11:45 If a president imposes on culture, they impose on speech14:45 The public will want a president who doesn’t impose on culture17:40 Spencer Kornhaber joins the Chuck ToddCast 18:40 What inspired his piece on current pop culture being terrible? 22:25 Algorithms are terrible at introducing new music 23:10 Old music earns 3x the streams of new music 24:40 Algorithms use music to trigger nostalgia 26:10 New music sounds rehashed and doesn't move the ball forward 28:10 The music industry lost its gatekeepers 29:55 Algorithms help people discover music in a different language 32:10 Has rock music stopped evolving? 33:20 Country music is having a resurgence 34:00 The impact of AI on music production 35:40 Is television the one area of pop culture that's better than ever? 36:55 Prestige TV has become the center of the culture 38:25 How has episodic tv impacted moviemaking? 40:40 "Barbenheimer summer" wasn't a fluke 42:40 Are we also in a golden age of literature? 45:25 Younger generations are reading less 46:10 Do high resolution pictures + AI diminish the visual arts? 48:55 Will experiences become the next big artform for Gen Z 50:25 How well will his piece age? 51:55 Will competition with AI make human artists more innovative? 54:25 Will society decide to reinvest in the arts? 55:25 Gaming and sports are more popular than ever 57:10 Is the live element of sports and music driving popularity? 58:10 Bad Bunny and Taylor Swift are the king and queen of pop 59:10 Who rules Hollywood? 1:02:25 We've seen major innovation in live theater1:04:45 Chuck's thoughts on the interview with Spencer Kornhaber 1:05:00 Algorithms suck at making culture, humans are good at it 1:05:15 Ask Chuck - Should we be concerned about Europe rearming? 1:07:55 What is your preferred voting method to incentivize compromise? 1:13:45 Will the Biden cognitive question loom over the 2028 election?
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way that many people listen to podcasts good old-fashioned audio on your phones in your cars wherever you're listening to this much appreciated we are uh taping just before this is we are in the run-up to memorial day weekend and let me give you a little bit of hint about memorial day weekend in washington particularly in the odd numbered years um so we're in the middle of this mess right now right house republicans they set an artificial deadline
which they may miss. Mike Johnson wanted to get the one big beautiful bill, basically Trump's agenda bill. At this point, we're governing in this horrendous process now. One party gets control of everything for a couple of years. So they're like, let's make the kitchen sink bill. It was what Build Back Better was what Joe Biden's kitchen sink bill was called.
This one kitchen sink bill is one big beautiful bill. It's officially called this, right? But it's really the partisan kitchen sink bill. And what have we learned about partisan kitchen sink bills? They will eventually pass. It just depends on how much crap you have to put in or take out in order to get it to pass.
There used to be a great saying in Washington, if you can't get a bill in Congress passed, make it bigger. Meaning, because back in the days when everybody was transactional, not just in partisan transactional natures, but literally across the aisle, you could buy votes anytime you wanted. All right, let's build this in that district. We'll get his vote. Let's do this over here.
He needs my vote for his bill. I'll give him that if he gives me mine. That old-fashioned way of making a congressional bill was the way it worked when there was bipartisanship. If you couldn't get a bill passed, make it bigger. But ever since we went to this partisan governance, it basically started with the Clinton era. Right.
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