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Lisa Staes (Jack of Diamonds, Wisconsin)

30 Apr 2025

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Our card this week is Lisa Staes, the Jack of Diamonds from Wisconsin. In the winter of 1976, Lisa Staes was trying to figure out what exactly she wanted to do with her life. Like so many 20-year-olds, she’d just moved out of her parents’ house and started classes at a community college. She was embracing her independence as a young adult. But no one ever got to see how Lisa’s life would unfold. Because that same year she disappeared.It took nearly two years for investigators to figure out that Lisa had been murdered. But in the 49 years since, they’re still trying to uncover why, and, most importantly… who. And now more than ever, it’s a race against time. If you have any information about the murder of Lisa Staes or her whereabouts between Chicago and Wisconsin in January of 1976, please call the Sauk County sheriff’s office at 608-355-4495 and ask for Detective Bulin. Or, if you’d rather remain anonymous, you can call the Sauk County crime stoppers tip line at 1-800-847-7285. View source material and photos for this episode at: thedeckpodcast.com/lisa-staes Let us deal you in… follow The Deck on social media.Instagram: @thedeckpodcast | @audiochuckTwitter: @thedeckpodcast_ | @audiochuckFacebook: /TheDeckPodcast | /audiochuckllcTo support Season of Justice and learn more, please visit seasonofjustice.org.The Deck is hosted by Ashley Flowers. Instagram: @ashleyflowersTikTok: @ashleyflowerscrimejunkieTwitter: @Ash_FlowersFacebook: /AshleyFlowers.AFText Ashley at 317-733-7485 to talk all things true crime, get behind the scenes updates, and more! 

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4.218 - 26.06 Ashley Flowers

Our card this week is Lisa C. Stays, the Jack of Diamonds from Wisconsin. In the winter of 1976, Lisa Stays was trying to figure out what exactly she wanted to do with her life. Like so many 20 year olds, she just moved out of her parents' house and started classes at a community college. She was embracing her independence as a young adult.

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26.941 - 56.737 Ashley Flowers

But no one ever got to see how Lisa's life would unfold, because that same year, she disappeared. It took nearly two years for investigators to figure out that Lisa had been murdered. But in the 49 years since, they're still trying to uncover why, and most importantly, who murdered her. And now, more than ever, it is a race against time. I'm Ashley Flowers, and this is The Deck.

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89.898 - 112.848 Ashley Flowers

On the afternoon of January 14th, 1976, Michelle Laudman and Kurt Rahn were out going from bar to bar on Rush Street in Chicago. But they weren't looking to drink, dance, or party. They were looking for their cousin, Lisa, who had been in town visiting on her college break. The night before, around 6 p.m., Kurt last saw Lisa at a bar called Mother's.

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113.508 - 133.345 Ashley Flowers

She said that she'd hit it off with this guy that she met inside and she was thinking about going home with him. So she asked Kurt to wait around for about 30 minutes, and if she didn't come back out by then, he could just head home. So when that half hour passed, he did. But when Lisa hadn't returned home by the next day, the cousins began to worry.

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134.125 - 155.314 Ashley Flowers

They couldn't find anyone at the bars on Rush Street who could tell them what might have happened to Lisa. So just after 10 p.m. that night, Michelle called the Oak Park Police Department to file a missing persons report. From Oak Park's original incident file, it looks like that night officers put Lisa's information into NCIC, a law enforcement database.

155.934 - 177.859 Ashley Flowers

And they checked for accidents in the area. But that's about it. They didn't conduct interviews or do neighborhood canvases or initiate any sort of ground search. They didn't even ask for a picture of Lisa. When 10 days went by with no updates, Lisa's dad, Jack Stays, actually traveled up from his home in Leawood, Kansas to see what was going on.

178.699 - 203.25 Ashley Flowers

He hoped giving officers some more information about Lisa might get things moving, but it really didn't. The Stays family went on to spend over a year living in a state of dread with no idea what happened to Lisa. Her younger brothers, Grant and Tim, were around 17 and 9 when she disappeared. Grant, the older brother, remembers that time just being a blur.

204.431 - 235.454 Grant Stays

Well, I don't know exactly what went on during those 16 months. I don't even know if I knew it was affecting me, you know. It just kind of is one of those things when you're 17, 18, that kind of molds you, you know, don't really know that it's molding you at the time. But, uh, yeah, I mean, it was hard on my parents. It was really hard on them for all that time.

235.814 - 255.654 Grant Stays

I saw them age quite a bit or rapidly, I should say. Because it's the unknown that really, really wears on you. To find out what happened is hard. But to not find out what happened is harder.

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