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The Dr. John Delony Show

Grief Expert: Why Grief Demands a Witness (With David Kessler)

23 Dec 2024

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🇺🇸 Watch United States of Anxiety Exclusively on the Free Ramsey Network App! In this episode, John interviews grief expert David Kessler about how to address grief and process emotions on your own timeline. Next Steps: Learn more about David Kessler and resources for grief  Follow David on Instagram 📞 Ask John a question! Call 844-693-3291 or send us a message. 📚 Building a Non-Anxious Life 📝 Anxiety Test  📚 Own Your Past, Change Your Future  ❓ Questions for Humans Conversation Cards  💭 John's Free Guided Meditation  🤘🏼 The Dr. John Delony Show Merch Connect With Our Sponsors:  🌱 Get 10% off your first month of BetterHelp. 🌿 Get up to 40% off at Cozy Earth with code DELONY. 🔒 Get 20% off when you join DeleteMe. 😇 Go to Hallow for a 90-day free trial. 💤 Visit Helix Sleep for special offers! 💪 Get 25% off your order at Thorne.  🥤 Get 20% off at Organifi with code DELONY.  🏔 Head to Poncho Outdoors to check out all their styles!     Listen to More From Ramsey Network: 🎙️ The Ramsey Show 💸 The Ramsey Show Highlights   🍸 Smart Money Happy Hour 💡 The Rachel Cruze Show 💰 George Kamel 💼 The Ken Coleman Show 📈 EntreLeadership   Ramsey Solutions Privacy Policy https://www.ramseysolutions.com/company/policies/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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5.578 - 22.63 Dr. David Kessler

There is no timeline in grief. If you are, it's a week ago, it's a month ago, and you're sitting there witnessing. You're four years in, aren't getting out of the house, or you're not getting back in relationships. I'm going to be a little tougher coach.

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22.71 - 45.682 Dr. John Delony

There you go. Yeah. What's up? What's going on? This is John with the Dr. John Deloney Show. I'm so glad you're with us. We're talking about your emotional and mental health, your relationships, whatever you got going on in your life. I'm gonna sit here, I'm gonna sit with you, and we're gonna figure out what's the next right move.

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46.423 - 69.258 Dr. John Delony

On today's episode, we have a second part of one of my favorite conversations I've ever had with one of my heroes, the great David Kessler. David Kessler is a world-renowned expert on grief, and nobody likes to talk about grief, but grief impacts every single person living and breathing right now, including you and including me.

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69.818 - 85.171 Dr. John Delony

And we have to grieve the big things, the small things, and we have a grief-illiterate world, as he says. And so in this part two, we're talking about grief demanding a witness, something that I've been saying forever and ever, and I got the line from him, and so much more.

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85.592 - 103.327 Dr. John Delony

So I've got his book here, by the way, The Sixth Stage of Grief Workbook for anyone who's struggling, and we'll link to it in the show notes. So check out the second part of my conversation with the great David Kessler right here. The most powerful line you've given me is grief demands a witness.

103.647 - 104.988 Dr. David Kessler

Grief demands a witness.

105.228 - 130.337 Dr. John Delony

Every civilization, every faith community in all of human history have had a moment where people sit down and say, tell me your story. And so often, like, I lost my husband, lost my, stop, what was his name? Like, we're going to tell the story. There's something so powerful. Let me ask you this. You manage these amazing global online grief communities. I have...

131.778 - 152.028 Dr. John Delony

made the case, and tell me if I'm wrong, that in many ways, storytelling, being with, if you will, digitally is like Twinkies. It's calories, but it's not rich food. Have you noticed a difference between in-person and online?

152.229 - 153.209 Dr. David Kessler

I started there.

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