
John Reeves is an Alaskan gold miner who first came to public prominence on the 2012 National Geographic docu-series "Goldfathers." More recently, his ongoing search for gold uncovered the remains of thousands of Ice Age animals lying beneath the permafrost on his property. The discovery is featured in the 2019 documentary "Boneyard Alaska" and popular Instagram account @theboneyardalaska. www.fairbanksgoldco.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Oh yeah, no. I'll have a little taste.
Just a little taste, Mr. Reeves.
Thank you, sir. Cheers, sir. Good to see you again. Good to be seen.
Ha ha. Mmm. Mmm. So tell me, what the fuck is going on? How is it? How's things cracking? First of all, congratulations on being proved correct and that there are literally mammoth bones, bison bones, all kinds of bones in the East River. You said on this podcast, Dirty Water, Dan went out and looked for them. They found bones. They found multiple bones. It's real. It's very real.
So the museum dumped bones that belong to your property out there in the East River, and they're still out there for people to find. How many pounds were dumped, roughly?
50 tons.
50.
50 tons.
And that was told to me by one of the guys that wrote that report. That I read on your show.
Good Lord, that's a lot. I didn't know it was that many.
Yeah. Boxcar.
And they found how many bones so far?
I don't know. You don't know? I think Dirty Water Don and those guys found three so far.
Did I say Dan? Sorry, sorry.
It's either Dan or Don.
Don. I think it's, is it Dirty Water Dan or Dirty Water Don? It's Don. Dirty Water Don. I'm sorry. That's a risky thing. The guy's diving in the East River. Yeah. That guy's...
There's more guys out there, too.
How many guys are out there right now?
Don't know how many, but I know there's others out there that are making finds. So are they using spotlights?
How are they seeing things at the bottom of the East River?
One is a research vessel.
A research vessel?
Yeah.
Whoa.
Yeah, I'm in the gold mining industry, and we have a code that we don't talk about.
So this is one piece, and this is a jawbone, correct? Yes, sir. Of a step bison.
I believe so. I have never seen it. But I know he found that was one of the first things he found. He found some mammoth ivory.
Yeah, and he found another bone, right? Yes, sir. Looks like a leg bone. Yeah. Right there, yeah. So this is his Instagram is Dirty Water Don on Instagram, and that's another bone that they found right there. Yes, sir. And so they know roughly the location, and it's kind of amazing that this stuff was dumped in, was it the 30s? When was this dumped? In the 40s. The 40s. Yes, sir.
So this stuff was dumped. That's outrageous. That's an outrageous photograph. How dare you, Don. This stuff was dumped in the 40s, and to this day, this is the first time that people have actually gone looking for things, correct? Yes, sir.
It's been a dirty little secret for decades.
Well, proven true now. It sure has been. The museum still continues to deny it, though, correct?
They won't talk to me. Why won't they talk to you? Well, when Drew and Elora and I and my wife went to New York a few years ago, they were supposed to meet with us, and they decided to have us stand out in the rain for four hours.
Really?
Yeah.
And they wouldn't meet with you?
No. So you went all the way to New York to meet with them? Well, I went there to the Explorers Club to show the documentary. There was a screening of the documentary on the Boneyard. And what, did they just decide that you're too problematic? I think so, yeah.
Well, how are you problematic? I don't understand.
I'm problematic in many, many ways.
I think you're great.
Because I don't think they ever envisioned somebody like me owning this company.
Right. That's probably the problem. The problem is you're honest.
To some degree. I'm a gold miner after all. Yeah. You know, Mark Twain said a miner is a liar standing next to a hole in the ground. Oh, that's funny.
Mark Twain was the shit. Yeah, wasn't he? He really was. Boy, was that guy ahead of his time. You know, a lot of people credit him for being the first stand-up comedian. I didn't know that. Yeah, because stand-up comedy is a truly American art form. And it seems like Twain... was the first guy to do it.
Cause essentially what he would do is read his humorous works in front of people and they would all laugh. So he would, you know, be playing to the crowd. And, uh, it was one of the first iterations of standup comedy was Mark Twain. And he obviously is very funny guy, very insightful and humorous and so many great quotes from this one individual, you know?
Yeah.
So they left you in the rain, and then nobody has spoken to you since, or what? They don't talk to me. What are they afraid of? It's not even them. You've got to think, this is all done in the 1940s. Everybody who did it is probably dead.
They just don't want to return the bones.
Oh, so they have more bones.
Oh, yeah. This is just the stuff they threw in the river is not even the good stuff. I don't know if you saw that little video I posted of their collecting techniques where they threw them in a big pile. No idea where they came from. Wow. It's on my Instagram.
So they just don't want to address it. So do you have lawyers involved? Like what's going on so far?
Everybody's encouraged me to litigate this. I've been involved in litigation before and I have a pretty good track record because I protect my property rights. I don't care if it's real property or intellectual property.
Well, this seems like they're going to have to – I mean, there's just too much pressure now. With the fact that they've actually found real bones in the East River, that there's no other way they could have gotten there. I mean, just how else are you going to find a step bison bone in the fucking East River? It's clear that they dumped that stuff.
Oh, yeah. And they denied it for – check this out. So it says I – How?
These are the fearsome reminders of a period when cavemen were not the only things girls had to look out for.
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Money isn't always so easy to find. Gold miners in Alaska loosening up the frozen earth found not gold, but the treasures of past ages. A mammoth tusk nine feet long was just a part of the 12 tons of ivory unearthed in a year.
Wow.
These are the fearsome reminders of a period when cavemen were not the only things girls had to look out for.
It's hilarious. The way they talked back then was so strange. What a weird way to talk. Why did they all choose to talk like that?
I don't know.
Very weird. It's like when they first heard themselves recording, I would like to sound a little more fancy.
Anyways, that's their collecting techniques, and they sent everything. They weren't supposed to take all that stuff. They were only supposed to take bones of scientific value, and they were supposed to research every one they took. And they were supposed to, under the agreement I had with them, or my company— do a report annually on everything they took.
And it was a tripartite agreement with the University of Alaska, AMNH, and my company, Fairbanks Exploration. And they didn't do any of it. And when I bought the company, I went to the University Museum, and the curator there, I said, I bet you know why I'm here. He goes, I think I do. I said, I want the bones back. He goes, let's go to New York City. Let's go get them.
So we all went to New York City to get them. And they gave me a nice tour downstairs of the basement and showed me the tons and tons they had down there, hundreds and hundreds of mammoth tusks.
Really?
In those crates, the wooden crates and everything else.
And what are they doing with them?
Nothing. They're supposed to do reports and research on them. They haven't done anything in 100 years.
So is it because they don't have the funding to do the work on them and they just want to store them because they're pack rats? Like what are they doing?
Well, they don't have the stratigraphic information about where that stuff comes from.
Oh, you have that.
I have all of that. Yeah. And one of the authors of that report I read last year, uh was trying to get us together so we could make some sense out of this collection and like drew and i were talking earlier it's like a thousand piece jigsaw puzzle i only got 20 pieces i want the whole thing on the table and we'll research all of it because the secrets to the extinction event are in those bones
Yeah, it seems like it. It is. Well, let's talk about that because one of the things that you have found is a layer of carbon, a layer of dark carbon that seems to indicate a mass fire.
Yes.
And that where the animals are, it's so unusual that there are so many bones in this same sort of layer of
that exist in one place that something had to happen for them to all die in that one spot and this is something that randall carlson has pointed out before um you know they found the other places where i forget where the other places were was it siberia where they found massive amounts of mammoths that were all in one area that seemed to have died instantaneously some of them with like broken leg bones seemed to have died because of an impact or
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Well, like I told you last time, I think it's all secondary deposition from water because there's such a wide spectrum of them and very few mummified remains, although we found some this summer. And I think I told you last year that the oldest sample we took was 22,000 years old. And some people, you know, I have that Ice Age Fossil Works, buy little shards of ivory.
And I told the one guy, I said, why don't you carbon date it if you want to know the story. So he sent it off to a lab and had it carbon dated, 40,000 years old. Wow. So there might be enough in there for two dryness events.
Which is probably likely. Could have. Yeah. Well, what Randall and Graham Hancock, what they believe and the Younger Dryas Impact Theory proponents believe is that distinctly something around 11,800 years ago and then maybe something also around 10,000 years ago. But that doesn't preclude or that doesn't dismiss the idea that there could have been one 30,000 years, 40,000 years.
There could have been multiple events. Yeah. Could have been. Because of this time that we pass through this comet shower. It's every June and November, I believe.
And I've posted that picture before of the burnt bedrock and the gravel above it.
Yes. See if you can find that photo, Jamie, because that's fascinating, too, because that seems to indicate that something massive happened.
Something did happen.
Yeah.
And the problem with this deposit, now, I've got to be careful what I say after last time.
What would you do?
When I was here with you last time. Did you get crazy? What did you say? I'm afraid I bullshitted you a little bit.
In what way? Yeah.
Because when I got back to Fairbanks, my surveyor comes up to me. His name's Albert. He says, you got a lot of nerve bullshitting them like that. I said, what are you talking about? He said, you told him the site that you dug all these up is five acres. I said, yeah. He goes, it's 2.1 acres. Wow. Okay, I'm going to tell him I'm sorry. I apologize.
That's actually even more insane, right? So do you think that this is like the water had washed these bodies into a very specific area?
I think there's a bigger system of water in play that we don't really understand yet. When we started going up the gulch, it's what it is, the gulch. And it's about... Not the way I can describe it. It sure is narrow, but it sure is long. So this year we decided, let's go back to the beginning. And we moved the pump and everything back down to where we started 15, 16 years ago.
Thinking, okay, let's see how wide this is. As soon as we started doing it, we started finding more tusks, more animal parts, more of everything. And we found those crazy sawed bones.
Yeah, the crazy sod bones are very interesting. Yeah. So let's talk about that because we've showed photos on the podcast before and that these sod bones, now you have carbon dated them and they're to when? Here they are. Yeah.
You're not going to believe this because we got all excited when we found them. Yeah. Plus or minus 200 years. They're 190 years.
So what kind of animal are these from?
190.
Here, I brought one with me.
Oh, really?
This is a story about how these were found. I got a call one day. I was out there at the Boneyard. My daughters have a tourist business around the corner a little bit called Gold Daughters. And Elora called me up and goes, Dad, there's a state trooper over here wanting to talk to you. And I look around my truck to see what I got in it. I said, okay, I'll be right over. I go over.
And we had some stuff going on at the time. I didn't think there was any reports filed any place. But I go over there and introduce myself to this guy, and his name is Eric Spitzer. He's the head state trooper in Fairbanks. He says, I was just out in the neighborhood. I wanted to come by and introduce myself. I saw you on Joe Rogan's podcast. I love fossils. I love what this is all about.
My kids like to look for bones, and I take them out in the woods, and we look for stuff. I just wanted to come by and introduce myself. And the excitement in is just him talking to me. I said, well, follow me over. I'll go show it to you right now. So we went over to the boneyard. He got out and he looked around. He just couldn't believe it. He picked up some bone parts.
I said, well, now you're a boner. You just got to find one. And we bullshit a little bit. He goes, do you mind if I bring my kids out sometime? I said, bring them out this weekend. We'll fire the pumps up. I'll turn you guys loose, and then we'll come check on you once in a while. And they found a pallor too full of bones. Little fragments of leg bones. And then they came back the next weekend.
They found a mammoth tusk. And they found these sawed bones, a few of them. We got 15 of them now that they found. And so I told everybody those bones are now called the spitzer, the spitzer vines. Two little young daughters found them. Sometimes it just takes a new set of eyes. I don't know how many of those we've picked up in the past, but we never looked at it that way.
So I brought one with me. This is the one that I carbon dated. And so this is the one that's 200 plus years old. You see that notch right there? That's what I cut out to send in to get carbon dated.
And so this is some sort of a joint. Is that a femur? Is that the top of a femur?
The lady, Jeanette Rimes, a Dakota huntress, she thinks it's a moose leg bone. But set it on its end there, other end.
Okay.
Now, 200 years ago, what kind of utility would that have to do that?
What kind of utility to do that?
Yeah.
What do you mean?
The people that did that. Why would they have a bone like that?
I would imagine to get to the marrow.
Yeah, but then what? You eat it. Maybe a candle? Maybe some marrow?
Well, I would imagine they're eating the marrow.
They are eating the marrow.
People have always eaten the marrow, and that's how they do it. I mean, if you get marrow now, that's how you do it.
But I think there's some utility to that bone is what I'm saying. Yeah. Just the way it sits. It could have put fire embers in it to keep, you know, overnight. Because this was 200 years ago.
Yeah.
This was 100 years before Fairbanks was discovered. This is even more of a mystery to me.
So is this Russians?
It's obviously owned by Russia. It's about the same time frame, yeah. Russians owned Alaska. And, you know, it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't go up. They founded Anchorage in the late 1700s.
I think the utility of it is just a coincidence, honestly, because it doesn't look like it's been worked at the bottom.
No. No? No, I agree with you. I don't know. Yeah. That's the whole thing. None of us know.
I mean, I'm sure they have used some of these before like that for something. But if I had to guess, I would guess that this is just something that they did to get at the marrow where all the good fat is, you know.
Maybe they had some vodka and they poured it in there.
Perhaps.
I don't know.
They probably had some kind of metal cups back then.
Well, those two lilies you just showed, they looked like cups to me.
They could have been. They certainly could be some sort of a thing that you could drink out of. Certainly the right size for a good shot of vodka. But so were there supposedly people living in that area back then?
No. No. Hmm. Hmm. That's right. Because up till now, the dating sequences have been 3,000 before present to now it's 40,000 years before present. That puts it up to 200 years before present. Which is interesting. It is interesting.
So what do you think is going on?
I have no idea. Does anybody have a theory? There's probably a lot of theories. But that's the whole point about all this stuff. Nobody knows.
Well, at least we know you didn't come up with evidence that the saw is older than 5,000 years old, which is one of the things that we're thinking.
Which is I was hoping that was going to be the case. Yeah, that would have been wild. And when I got the carbon dates, I went, ah, damn it. But thinking about it, though, it's even more of an interesting thing.
How much of a recorded history do we have of that area from 200 years ago?
None.
None. So was it mostly like, have you ever seen that Werner Herzog documentary, Happy People, Life of the Taiga? It's about people who live in Siberia right now to this day, and they live this incredibly primitive life. Really all they have is snowmobiles and some hand tools.
and uh you know maybe some chainsaws and most of what they do is just living off the land trapping fishing hunting that's it yeah and they you know they're the very low instances of mental illness everybody's very happy all these communities of these people living together just you know surviving living off the land subsistence lifestyle but i don't think there's
much historical record on those people you know the people that are alive there right now if they were to die off 200 years from now what evidence is there of them other than you might you might find some stuff that they did you might find some trees they cut down or some some logs or whatever is going to be around still 200 years from now they'll be preserved
Well, we did find a skinning rock across the valley on top of a hill that still don't know how old that is or where that's from. A skinning rock? A skinning rock. It's posted there.
And it's been worked?
Yeah, there's even a little indent on the side for your finger as you flesh something out. And what is it made out of? Stone from Eastern Europe. Remember, we talked a little. Oh, that's right. That's right. And it wasn't local. Right. So there was a lot of traveling, migrating, going on across that Bering land bridge because it was ice free corridor. Yeah.
And it went all the way into the lower 48. So there's a lot of stuff that we find, as I said last time, that they say didn't live there, but it sure died there.
Yeah, like let's talk about that. Like what different animals did they say didn't live there that you personally and your company has found evidence of?
Dire wolves being one of them. Sabertooth being another one. I found one and my company found one before I was around. Sent them to New York City. I asked to see them, but they didn't have them available. And let's see what else we got. Badgers, elk.
And they didn't think they were around back then? No. Why did they not think that elk were in that area back then? Because elk are in Alaska. Yeah.
Because they never found any elk bones.
Right. But that's it. It's just they didn't find the bones.
They didn't find the bones. But they literally didn't think that saber-toothed tigers lived in that area. They didn't think that. In fact, in that film, that documentary film, Pat Druckenmiller, who's the curator now and the director of the museum, says to their knowledge, none of them have ever been found there.
Wow.
But to my knowledge, they have been because on a shipping manifest to AMNH that one was sent to them. The one I found was stolen by the British Museum, never returned. So I'm on kind of a little bit of a rampage these days about the museums and what they're doing with these collections. It's kind of a one-man thing. It's a cause. I think it's important.
I think it is important because these museums are run by these academics and academics, unfortunately, some of them tend to be very arrogant. And they want to be able to control whatever narrative they have or whatever information they have, and they don't want to be open about it.
No. And the AMNH is a private institution, but the Smithsonian is a public entity. It's owned by us. So they answered a different set of rules. The Smithsonian has to respond to a FOIA request. AMNH says, what are you going to do? Sue us. We'll stump break you.
What does that mean?
Bend you over a log and we'll break you.
Oh, with money?
With money, with lawyers, with all that litigation costs.
Why don't we fucking crowdfund something?
Well, because I have another plan. This plan's going to work.
Okay.
I have people in our state legislature working on this right now. There's a senator named Click Bishop who's on the finance committee. He's on the resources committee. He's the majority whip, and he's making efforts to get the bones back to Alaska from the state of Alaska. Okay. Now, M&H might be able to take on John Reeves. This don't break me. But they can't do it to the state of Alaska.
The state of Alaska will go toe-to-toe with them some bitches. Now, after we get that through the House and state legislature, the Senate and the House, we'll go to the congressional delegation. You've heard what an act of Congress is, don't you? You know what that is.
Sure.
M&H, give them their goddamn bones back. AM and H is going to see the light. This is a political solution to this. Not lawyers, not all that stuff. I got nothing to gain from this. You know, I'm just trying to get them back in Alaska so we have that thousand piece puzzle to put together. They were supposed to be studied and researched and the answers to the extinction event are within the bones.
And so you've never been given any explanation as to why they haven't done this research? No.
They didn't feel like it.
They just didn't feel like it. Is it because they don't have the resources or it just wasn't a priority for them and this was all done from the 1940s and there's no reason for them to go back and take that stuff and reenact the research or begin the research?
It's impossible for them to come up with any scientific research because they don't have the stratigraphic information. They don't even know where it was found. Right. But I do. Let's put it all together, boys, and then we'll study it.
I just don't understand why they wouldn't want to do that. That seems to me an incredible opportunity to attain enlightenment on an area that's fascinating. I mean, have any academics reached out to you after the podcast? Not that I know of. How not? How not? I mean, me just finding your Instagram page, I was like, Jesus Christ, how does this guy have all these bones? This is crazy.
What is this place? This place seems like, what an amazing, fortunate find that you guys have this one spot, 2.1 acres, and probably a whole lot more around that area that you just haven't uncovered yet, that has this incredible wealth of bones.
It's amazing.
It's fucking incredible. Yep.
And that's why that cut bone, by the way, I noticed you don't have a spitzer bone out there in your lobby.
What's a spitzer bone?
That's what we call the spitzer bones. Oh, yeah. You ain't got one of those in your lobby. No, I don't. I'm going to fix that shit.
Okay, thank you.
You're welcome.
We do have the step bison head, though.
I saw it out there. It looks nice where it's sitting.
We're trying to figure out how to display it. I think I'm going to have a stand built and just have it sit out there.
I've got people going, oh, he needs to get a Cadillac and mount it on the hood. Well, that's not a bad idea. As long as you don't drive it around.
Once I get a ranch out here, I'll do that. I'll put it on the ranch truck. There you go. No, that's not good.
It needs to be preserved. The Blue Bay bison was 38,000 years old. And they could have known each other back in the day. Well, it looks old as fuck. It is old as fuck.
Yeah. What an amazing, amazing spot you have. Do you ever stop and just think how insane it is?
I do when I have people like Eric Spitzer and his daughter show up and they're just the happiness. They're just so gleeful. Yeah. And sometimes I need to see that to remember that what we're doing is kind of worthwhile.
No, it's very worthwhile.
It means that people enjoy it and they like seeing it and they like doing it. We just haven't figured out a way to let everybody do it.
Well, it just seems to me that this is an extraordinary opportunity to gain some understanding.
Yeah.
And that's why I don't understand why these universities or someone hasn't reached out to you and said, hey, we need to really have a full-scale investigation and find out what happened here. This is an extraordinary place. And it may... unlock a lot of pieces to this puzzle as to what happened to humanity.
There's clearly some indication that we have a very limited understanding of the history of human beings in terms of What took place where we're starting to uncover these immense structures that seem to indicate that people had very complex construction methods many thousands of years before we thought they were capable of doing that? Many thousands.
Yeah.
They'll go back to Itapi, which is buried 11,000 plus years ago, back when they thought people were hunter-gatherers. And that's just what we found. And now they've done through LIDAR that whole area around Gobekli Tepe. They found tons of these things. They're all over the place out there. And that's how many more of these spots are there on Earth that we just haven't found yet. Who knows?
Who knows? And your area where that... Have they done a core sample where they've gone through that carbon layer to find out what year that all took place yet? No. This episode is brought to you by ZipRecruiter. Running a business ain't easy, especially a small business. You have to wear a lot of different hats to keep things running smoothly. And when you have to do everything on top of hiring...
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Wow.
And it's partially my fault because I tell everybody, look, Until we get our bones back from the bowels of the AM and H, nothing's going to get studied. If they want to do this and continue doing this, they can deal with Drew out there because we're not going to just say, okay, we'll study 20 pieces of the 1,000-piece puzzle. We're just two guys with one giant.
My company had 200 giants running at the same time for over 40 years. recovered tens of thousands and thousands of bones, all of which were taken to New York, 50 tons of which were dumped at least one time in the East River and maybe more than that.
Now, why did they dump those in the East River? They just needed the storage? I don't know. They just had an abundance of them.
They had so many of them, and they said, ah, nobody's going to give us any money for this. I have an idea that's a good cover story for making sure your wealthy donors get a little something-something and getting them off the books.
Oh, so some of them they dumped and some of them they gave away.
I would think.
I would imagine.
Museums aren't money-making institutions. Right. And so I think a lot of the times they get something donated, especially when there's no control at all. There was no control on what was going on.
Sort of like when we send money to Ukraine.
Okay.
It's going all over the place.
Yeah, why don't we send the money to Maui?
Right. Yeah.
Okay.
I've said that many times.
$100 billion to Ukraine. We could have built a gas line from the North Slope to the lower 48 and a water line from Southeast Alaska to Northern California and took care of the people in Maui. Yeah. And still have some change left over.
Yeah, a lot of change.
But, no.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
It is. It is, and it seems like what's happening with your bones and your property and the lack of, I don't want to say if it's a lack of interest. I'm sure they're interested, but the lack of action. It's symbolic of a lot of the problems that we have in our society today. Mismanagement, man. Massive. Massive and a confederacy of dunces that are running the show.
Yeah, they are. And seemingly they don't care what we think. No.
Well, that's, you know, they have too much on their plate. Why are they going to talk about some fucking dude in Alaska who's out of his mind? Blowing water into the side of permafrost, pulling out all kinds of crazy skulls. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Well, I think, you know, I'm in business, you're in business. We have a divided Congress. We got half, a little bit more than half, that think this president we got should be impeached. We got the other lower, a little bit less than half. Not one of them think he should be impeached. So my belief as a business guy is as long as they're fucking with each other, they're not fucking with me.
They're leaving us alone. Right. And that's kind of what's going on right now.
Boy.
Imagine that being the best case scenario in 2023 with all the information that we have today, with AI, with chat GPT 4.0, soon to be 5, with all the technology we have available, all the understanding that we have available. And we're still just want everybody to just leave us alone.
That's the best case scenario. They stay busy with themselves and do what we want.
Yeah, it's better than them helping us. Yeah, we don't want it. Yeah.
But if the other part is I don't want to let my bones leave Alaska. Right, of course. They never seem to come back.
Right. I wouldn't trust them anymore.
No.
And the British Museum, have they given any sort of an explanation of what they did with that saber-toothed tiger skull? No. Somebody's probably got that in their living room. Yeah, they do. Yeah.
By George, look what I have here. Oh, my. I made a sizable donation to the museum, and they gifted me with this wonderful saber-toothed tiger skull.
In that case, I think the guy never even got back to the museum. I think he just took it home. He was working for them, but they're a bunch of—it's like we don't sell bones from the boneyard. We don't sell bones. We've given some bones away. That's because I own them. I can give them away. They didn't own them. You know, museums don't own them.
So they were supposed to research them? What were they supposed to do? There it is. Sabertooth Tiger Skull. Wow. A million dollars at auction. Yeah. Wow. That's 2019. I know a guy who has one of those. He's a very wealthy guy. And he actually has a real saber-toothed tiger skull on his desk in a plexiglass case.
That's awesome.
Yeah, just like that. I think that's how he got it. I think he got it at an auction. Yeah. Yeah.
And how did he get to the auction?
Good question, right? It's probably yours. He probably bought yours.
Mine wasn't that good looking. Yeah.
That was a good-looking skull. That's a good-looking skull. Yeah, his is a good-looking skull as well. His is fully intact. Yeah. No, mine wasn't that good. How many of them do they have that are fully intact out there in the wild?
Well, La Brea, there's a lot of them at La Brea Tar Pits, I believe. Alaska's a, you know, you keep it in perspective. I'm down here in your neck of the woods. There's probably 200,000 or 300,000 more people live in this city of Austin than live in the entire state of Alaska. The whole state.
Yeah.
Yesterday, Drew and I were going, hey, let's drive out and look at the farms in the countryside. We drove for two hours. We couldn't get out of town. We ended up at the airport every time. But there's a lot of, boy, there's a lot of building going on over last year. Yeah. Seems like there's a whole lot. Yeah, it is.
It's now the 10th largest city in the country. It's a little tiny-ass city at one point in time.
Not anymore. No. It's blown up. When are you guys going to get a football team?
That's a good question. That's a good question. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know how that shit works.
I don't know how that shit works either, but boy, they love football out here.
Houston's got one. Dallas got one.
I went to the UT game. It's massive. Boy. Just the college team out here. Holy shit. Yep. Crazy. Wild. It's like a religion out here. Football is nuts out here. Yep. It's crazy. Yeah. It's a fucking cool place to live, too. Yeah, it's awesome.
So we looked around, looked around, and said, well, let's just look around a little bit more. Saw parts of Austin that probably are not on the beaten track. But, hey, I thought, well, let's drive down to the border and see if we get kicked out of Mexico. Yeah. He goes, it's 485 miles. I said, we ain't going. Yeah, it's a haul.
I've gone down to South Texas to do some hunting. And the place that I went to, they actually found a dead migrant on their property. And he said, it's not uncommon. It happens quite often. Poor guys get lost and try to make their way across and run out of water. They do it in July and just die out there, unfortunately.
Well, I don't blame the people for wanting to come here.
At all.
No. My family, we all came from Europe.
Mine did too.
Yeah. It's just it doesn't seem to be any management of what's going on.
Seems to be the opposite of management. Seems like a concerted effort to flood the country. It sure does. And not just this country. Seems like it's happening all over Europe. It's real weird. It's a weird time.
This is the only time in my life that I've ever wondered, like really, really wondered and seriously considered the fact that there's some puppet masters that are slowly orchestrating the collapse of civilization.
You know, you talked about AI. Well, someday, and probably not too far in the future, you'll be able to do your podcast without even being here. AI will have you sitting there, have me sitting here, and it will be guessing what we're going to talk about.
Yeah, good luck.
Yeah, no shit.
AI is going to be able to do a really good job of recreating the kind of conversations that we've had but they're not gonna be able to really recreate human stupidity. I don't understand what happens when people get drunk. I don't think AI is going to be able to recreate, protect our parks.
I don't think they're going to – there's certain aspects of just genuine human chaos that AI I don't think is ever going to grasp because it doesn't have a soul.