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the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day Well, it's great to finally physically meet you face to face, man.
It's an absolute honor. And I love your show so much. I'm a super fan. So this is surreal.
I love your show, too. So I've been binging. I've been watching so many episodes ever since we talked. I've seen them before, but I mean, I've been really binging getting ready for the show. I don't know what to say. How did you get so deep down the rabbit hole? What made you want to dedicate so much time on this particular UAP, UFO, lost technology subject?
I was working at Peter Thiel's family office in L.A., and part of the job was like kind of traditional venture investing, so like investing in startups. And then part of it was looping in interesting thinkers to the office, and we'd like host events and discussions. And I ended up meeting a lot of really interesting people, not just in UFOs or secret technology like –
religion and politics and economics and, like, all sorts of topics.
Were you there when he brought in the guy... Oh, fuck, what is his name?
I know what you're going to say. Eric Von Daniken. Yes! I suggested that you come because I was like, Joe is going to be really into this, and you weren't that into it. But that's okay. I was into it.
I just think that he just makes some leaps.
I agree. That are kind of silly. I agree with that. Although... I think there's a lot. Yeah, I think he like crosses the T and dots the I where you there is no dot or cross or whatever. But I do think there's some interesting preliminary evidence around people from the stars across disparate cultures. And you just had Zahi Hawassan and a lot of this megalithic architecture.
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