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My man, what's happening? Pleasure. No, please, my pleasure. My pleasure. Thank you very much for having me here. My honor. I'm very excited about this new thing you're doing. I'm very excited about your journey into the lightweight division. Something that I feel very excited also about that. What are you walking around at? Like, what do you walk around at when you were fighting at 45?
I'm going to tell you in kilos. Okay. I walk around 80, 82. What is that, Jamie?
175.
175? 180. 180? Okay, so you were losing quite a bit of weight. 35 pounds? 25, 30 pounds. Oof. Yeah, that's a lot.
That was the hardest part of the fight game for me. I wasn't enjoying all the last couple of fights that I had because it's like, I had to become more professional in the weight cut than in a fight game, you know? And it was taking a lot of time and energy from me, and I'm like, my dream is to become a world champion.
I want to end up this chapter that I have that I started in 145, and now it's time to really enjoy it, and I'm very excited about that. I already have one fight in 155. Jai Herbert.
Jai Herbert. I really wish the UFC would eliminate weight cutting. I really wish there was a way. Why do they allow to do that? I don't. It's sanctioned cheating that everybody has to do. It's like, you know, I mean, if you're saying you're 180 pounds, you're not really 145, right? So it's crazy that you're the 145-pound champion, but you're a 180-pound man. It's kind of nuts.
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