Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with the new leader of the UK Conservative Party, Kemi Badenoch. They discuss her multinational upbringing, how that informed her on the fallacies of multiculturalism, the necessary preconditions of a functioning society, the current political landscape of the UK, and why anger resonates - but cannot rebuild. The Rt Hon Kemi Badenoch was Secretary of State for the Department for Business and Trade between 7 February 2023 and 5 July 2024. She was Secretary of State for International Trade and President of the Board of Trade between 6 September 2022 and 4 July 2024, and Minister for Women and Equalities for the Equality Hub between 25 October 2022 and 4 July 2024. Previously she was Minister of State at the Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities between 16 September 2021 and 6 July 2022. She was Minister of State (Minister for Equalities) in the Equality Hub between 14 February 2020 and July 2022. She was previously Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury from 13 February 2020 to 15 September 2021 and Parliamentary Under Secretary of State at the Department for Education from 27 July 2019 to 13 February 2020. This episode was filmed on January 29th, 2025 | Links | For Kemi Badenoch: On X https://x.com/KemiBadenoch?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/kemibadenoch/?hl=en Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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My dad used to talk about a law of homogeneity, and he said, people find their kind of people and they stick together. And I had this experience when I joined the Conservative Party.
There are preconditions for liberalism to work in the classic sense, and those preconditions are conservative. When they vanish, then the liberal project doesn't work.
A lot of what I see that has gone wrong is the corruption of liberalism. People have found the weakest points and are twisting it to do things it shouldn't be doing. In a low-trust society, everyone's a potential enemy. And if a politician is prepared to tell you something that we all know is not true, then what else will they tell you?
Now, you're kind of looking at the UK as an outsider when you think about the unity of culture that brings people together. Hello, everybody.
I had the privilege today because it was a privilege to speak to the new leader of the Conservative Party in the UK. And the Conservative Party is likely the most successful political party that has ever existed in the West as a whole. And its leadership is, well, a position of cardinal importance.
Kemi Bednok, the new leader, is a relatively young woman who's come to the UK from another country, who is grateful for the intellectual and cultural heritage of the UK and who understands it deeply. She's an engineer and has extensive legal training. And that's a very interesting combination because engineers are very practical and task-oriented and they know how to build things that work.
because they have to deal with the realities of the real physical world. And her legal training has given her deep insight into the legal structure of not only the UK, but the Western world in general, because so many of the institutions that we rely on in the West were originated in the UK. I got a chance to talk to her about her
childhood, her educational background, her rise to predominance in the Conservative Party, her forthright stance on issues such as net zero, which the Conservatives move towards in a fit of, you have to say, foolishness, egotism, and cowardice. We talked about that in some detail as well. We discussed why she believes
that she became leader of the Conservative Party, but why she's also an extremely effective alternative, let's say, to Nigel Farage and the Reform Party, which is a right-wing party in the UK as well that's on the up and up and that has, you know, things going for it. I believe we'll be speaking with Mr. Farage. I interviewed him yesterday.
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