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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

537. Reaction to Imminent Liberal Victory in Canada

10 Apr 2025

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson analyzes Canada’s current and possibly next prime minister, Mark Carney. From his résumé to his book “Values,” Dr. Peterson explores the motivations, contradictions, and unsettling strengths of the man now calling for a snap election. Carney is seeking a mandate from the Canadian people—but is he the right man for the job?    This episode was filmed on March 21st, 2025. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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2.759 - 28.087 Jordan Peterson

Hello, everybody. As some of you may know, and some of you don't, Canada suddenly has a new prime minister. His name is Mark J. Carney, and he's the replacement for Justin Trudeau, running the Liberal Party in Canada. That means that we Canadians need to know who Mark Carney is and why. to the degree that Canada has a role to play internationally that everybody needs to know.

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So, if you want to know who Canada's new Prime Minister is, and you want to know who Mark J. Carney is, and whether or not you should support him or vote for him if you're Canadian, or what you should think of him if you're part of the international audience, then this is the podcast for you.

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Carney is a mystery to Canadians in large part, not least because he's been a political figure for a very short period of time. And the election that's being called is a snap election. So Canadians aren't going to have, and the rest of the world, aren't going to have a lot of time to get to know him before the determination of his status as prime minister is going to be finalized.

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Now, I want to make a case for Carney first, as powerfully as I can, so that we give the devil his due, so to speak, and I think the right way to do that is with a review of his resume. It's quite clear to me that Canadians are entranced with Carney, whose Liberal Party has risen dramatically in the polls in the last month, They're entranced with him for two reasons.

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And one is because Trump has been careening around like a bull in the China shop with regards to his comments about Canada, placing tariffs on Canada, describing us as not worthy of having our own country and fated, if we're lucky, to become the 51st state. This has produced a groundswell of...

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pro-Canadian sentiment, in consequence, even among liberals who haven't been noted for their patriotism over the last 10 years. This is a common occurrence in Canada, historically. It's very frequently the case that in Canada, we learn to pull together because of a threat, real or supposed, emanating from the American elephant that occupies the place of primacy south of us.

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So Carney and the Liberals have got a boost because of Trump's rampaging around, but also because Carney is a new face, a new fresh face, hypothetically. And so the people who are a little leery, let's say, of the Conservatives under Poliev have every reason to hope that Carney is the right

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Now, he's capitalized on that to some degree by positioning himself as an outsider who will bring fresh new ideas and a novel and innovative approach to the Canadian political situation, and we'll take that claim apart a little bit later. Suffice it to say that the combination of his novelty

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and the knock-off consequences of Trump's comments with regard to Canada have moved the Liberals over the last month from a place where they were essentially facing electoral extinction of a historically unprecedented sort to neck and neck or arguably in the lead of Pierre Poliev's Conservatives. And so, why have Canadians turned to Carney apart from Trump? Well,

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