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China Unleashes a Trade War Arsenal

Thu, 10 Apr 2025

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In the early days of President Trump’s second term, China was ready to negotiate on trade. Then came Liberation Day. Now China is ready with a trade war arsenal taking aim at U.S. companies. WSJ’s Lingling Wei explains how China is gearing up for an extraordinary conflict with no immediate exits. Kate Linebaugh hosts. Further Listening: - Trump’s Tariffs Force a New Era in Global Trade   - The Trade War With China Is On  Sign up for WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What triggered the escalation in the U.S.-China trade war?

5.555 - 14.274 Kate Leinbaugh

In the last week, the U.S.-China trade war has spiraled. It started in the Rose Garden.

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15.151 - 24.697 Donald Trump

We're going to be charging a discounted reciprocal tariff of 34%. I think, in other words, they charge us, we charge them. We do have some breaking news right now from China.

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25.497 - 35.983 Kate Leinbaugh

And China hit back. China announcing retaliatory tariffs of 34%, effective April 10th. Then the U.S. countered China's counter-retaliation.

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36.263 - 39.805 News Reporter

Now a 104% tariff on Chinese imports.

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39.945 - 43.848 Kate Leinbaugh

Then China countered the U.S. 's counter-counter-retaliation.

45.268 - 48.509 Donald Trump

An 84% hit on all U.S. goods coming into China.

49.389 - 56.552 Kate Leinbaugh

And then yesterday, President Trump paused tariffs on most other countries, with one big exception.

57.432 - 64.494 Unnamed Speaker

The tariff on China will now go up to 125% because China imprudently decided to retaliate against the United States.

67.116 - 74.558 Lingling Wei

There has been quite a sense of shock, frustration, and anger in Beijing. That's our colleague Lingling Wei.

Chapter 2: How did China respond to U.S. tariffs under Trump?

377.54 - 406.341 Lingling Wei

The Chinese definitely were trying to engage with the administration at that point of time. In fact, they have been trying to get to the core team of the Trump administration. They really want to talk to cabinet-level officials. However, they have had no luck whatsoever. Some lower-level communication has been taking place. However, higher-level communication really has gone dark.

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407.193 - 408.454 Kate Leinbaugh

Do you have examples?

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409.395 - 433.01 Lingling Wei

Sure. So in late February, the foreign minister we just talked about, Wang Yi, he flew to New York. On the surface, you know, he was here to attend a United Nations Security Council meeting, but there was a much bigger goal for him. which was to have a meeting with senior officials at the Trump administration.

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433.511 - 447.096 Lingling Wei

In particular, Foreign Minister Wang Yi wanted to talk to National Security Advisor Mike Waltz, but he had no luck. He didn't get a meeting with him. He didn't even get a call with him.

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448.217 - 472.77 Kate Leinbaugh

According to one of Ling Ling's sources, Waltz didn't meet with Wang Yi, in part because of that warning that had been delivered to Rubio. The Chinese pursued other avenues into the administration and also had no luck. The Chinese ambassador to Washington had tried to engage with Elon Musk and failed. The Chinese commerce minister wrote letters to the U.S. Commerce Secretary and the U.S.

472.85 - 481.946 Kate Leinbaugh

Trade Representative. No response. Lingling says the White House wanted communication from higher levels in Beijing.

482.846 - 516.057 Lingling Wei

The Trump administration, to their credit, they know China pretty well these days. They know who in China is more important than others. And they basically told the Chinese, OK, you want to talk? Sure. But we want to talk to the people who are really close to Xi Jinping. But to the Chinese, that demand was something they couldn't really agree to because that's not how China works.

516.697 - 538.131 Lingling Wei

You know, they have very established ways of doing things and they didn't want to improvise or they did not have the ability to improvise. So basically, what China is offering for conversations is not in line with who the Trump administration wants to talk to.

539.451 - 549.077 Kate Leinbaugh

But it seems like it's going both ways, like both sides are making efforts to communicate, but those efforts weren't going anywhere.

Chapter 3: Why is China frustrated with the U.S. trade policy?

1028.554 - 1068.128 Kate Leinbaugh

Today, China announced it would reduce imports of American movies. In response, President Trump said, I think I've heard worse things. The administration also said today the new tariffs on China add up to a total of 145 percent, not the 125 percent it previously indicated. That news sent U.S. stock markets down sharply. That's all for today, Thursday, April 10th.

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1068.808 - 1081.982 Kate Leinbaugh

The Journal is a co-production of Spotify and The Wall Street Journal. Additional reporting in this episode by Gavin Bade. Thanks for listening. See you tomorrow.

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