Earlier this year, Harvard scientist Kseniia Petrova landed at Boston Logan Airport with samples of frog embryos in her luggage. Those samples cost Petrova her visa and kickstarted an asylum claim that landed her in an ICE detention facility in Louisiana. WSJ’s Michelle Hackman explains that Petrova’s case represents an aggressive shift in the Trump administration’s stance towards immigrants with visas. Jessica Mendoza hosts. Further Listening: -Trump 2.0: Trade Wars and Deportation Battles -A New Phase in Trump’s Immigration Fight Sign up for WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hi. Yes, hello. Ksenia, thank you so much for taking the time to chat with us again. My name is Jess. Appreciate you doing this. It sounds like it's pretty crazy over there. How are you?
Yeah, hello. Hello, hello. I'm fine. I mean, as much as I can.
That's Ksenia Petrova. She's a scientist at Harvard Medical School, studying how cells in the human body rejuvenate themselves. But right now, Ksenia is trapped. Instead of calling from her lab in Massachusetts, she's calling from an immigration detention center in Louisiana.
We just had to have lunch, so we just came back to our dorm. A lot of noise and things are going.
You said you're in your dorm? I see a lot of people behind you.
I spoke with Ksenia over a video call. She was in a big room made of metal and concrete, filled with rows of bunk beds. Behind Ksenia, I could just make out dozens of people milling around, all seeming to wear the same khaki jumpsuit.
But despite her surroundings, Ksenia seemed in good spirits, laughing nervously. I asked her what life was like in detention.
The food is absolutely terrible. It's very, very unhealthy. It's like a really bad quality McDonald's food. The bed is attached to the floor, of course. Every furniture here is screwed to the floor. In the corner, we have our toilets, like bath space. There are toilets and shower. And the toilets are half open, so if you're standing there, half of you will be visible. Wow.
It's like a life with 90 people in the same room. It's very noisy all the time. It's really hard to concentrate. It's hard to sleep sometimes. It's hard to think. You can't belong to yourself. You're always... Somebody is watching you.
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