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Lady Gaga, Low-Rise Jeans, and the Next Recession

23 May 2025

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Economists have long analyzed data to predict the next recession. They’ve also turned to more offbeat economic gauges like underwear sales and skirt lengths. But now, the TikTok generation is seeing recession indicators everywhere. WSJ’s Hannah Erin Lang explains what Gen Z’s fascination with harbingers of economic doom might actually mean for the economy. Jessica Mendoza hosts.  Further Listening: - Is the Economy… OK?  - Trump 2.0: Where Is The Economy Headed?  Sign up for WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What do Lady Gaga, flash mobs, and low-rise jeans have in common? They're all things I thought were cool 15-plus years ago. They're also back, not just as trends, but as harbingers of doom, or what young people are calling recession indicators. There's a million recession indicators, but my number one right now is how many A-list celebrities are doing commercials.

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31.559 - 36.301 Hannah Erin Lang

People brought tickets to Coachella a week before Coachella. Which is crazy. That's a recession indicator.

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Opening Instagram like, damn, everyone got their master's degree this year. Congratulations, but also recession indicator.

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44.324 - 49.626 Hannah Erin Lang

I've just searched recession indicator on TikTok. I mean, there's dozens of videos.

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Our colleague Hannah Aaron Lang writes about financial markets, and she became fascinated with the idea that Gen Z is looking for economic insight in unexpected places.

61.254 - 79.497 Hannah Erin Lang

There's a video with the caption, recession indicators you may not have noticed. My top five recession indicators. Oh my gosh. Recession trend predictions, the biggest recession indicator. And these are all just from like, these are not, you know, news anchors or news outlets. Like these are all everyday people sharing their thoughts on this.

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Some economists might be offended by the idea that low-rise genes are somehow related to the nation's financial health. And they'll be ready to shut the argument down with an old truism.

93.491 - 118.643 Hannah Erin Lang

Anytime you bring up a conversation like this, economic data wonks are going to tell you that correlation does not equal causation, right? But that being said, a correlation can still be interesting to look at. We are not in a recession by traditional measures. And the economy, by the measures we have looked at over the course of history, looks to be in a pretty good place right now.

119.793 - 137.825 Hannah Erin Lang

But the economy is so often about how people are feeling, right? How secure they feel, how optimistic they are about their financial future. And, you know, I guess there's something to be said for, like, why wouldn't those feelings be reflected in fashion or film or any other aspect of pop culture?

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