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The Download That Led to a Massive Hack at Disney

17 Mar 2025

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Matthew Van Andel’s ordinary life unraveled when he accidentally downloaded a trojan horse that gave a hacker access to his entire computer. But the hacker didn’t just get Van Andel’s information. It also got his employer: Disney.  Further Reading: -A Disney Worker Downloaded an AI Tool. It Led to a Hack That Ruined His Life.  -How to Keep Hackers From Destroying Your Digital Life  Further Listening: -Six Days of Chaos at MGM's Casinos  -Hack Me If You Can  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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5.788 - 7.089 Ryan Knudson

Where does this story start?

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8.19 - 22.019 Matthew 'Dutch' Van Andel

So, I'm not quite sure. So, you know, I didn't even realize it was that long ago at first until after the FBI had visited and I told them I would put together like a detailed timeline for them.

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24.02 - 45.853 Ryan Knudson

This is Dutch Van Andel. Up until last year, he lived a pretty ordinary life. He's a software engineering manager, married with two kids, and lives in the suburbs of Los Angeles. But last year, something happened that turned his ordinary life upside down. It started when Dutch downloaded a seemingly innocuous program onto his personal computer.

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46.513 - 53.017 Ryan Knudson

It was an AI software called Vision LLM, and it could generate images. He wanted something his sons could play with.

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53.977 - 58.28 Matthew 'Dutch' Van Andel

Like generate pictures of Easter buddies and Roblox people and, you know, stuff like that.

59.383 - 74.103 Ryan Knudson

He didn't know it at the time, but the program had a malicious code in it, a code that gave a hacker access to Dutch's computer. And over a period of months, that hacker stole all of Dutch's personal information, like his bank accounts and passwords,

75.52 - 85.324 Matthew 'Dutch' Van Andel

They're getting into things they shouldn't have because they've got my social security number, they've got my birth date, they've got my email address. You can just make a phone call and pretend to be me because you have this information.

86.124 - 114.147 Ryan Knudson

It was a nightmare. And it wasn't just his personal life that was hacked. Through Dutch, the hacker also got inside his employer, Disney. Disney has apparently been hit by a cyber attack. The hacking group Noble says it leaked thousands of internal Disney messages. While Dutch's story is unusual, his life online wasn't. And what happened to him could happen to almost anyone.

114.987 - 125.232 Matthew 'Dutch' Van Andel

These people, they may not be targeting you, but just because you work for somebody that they find interesting, they will destroy you to get at it.

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