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The Suspected Russian Plot to Set Airplanes on Fire

13 Dec 2024

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Since the war in Ukraine began, strange attacks have been happening across Europe, including a plot to set DHL packages on fire. WSJ’s Bojan Pancevski on Russia’s escalating shadow war in Europe.     Further Reading: -Chinese Ship’s Crew Suspected of Deliberately Dragging Anchor for 100 Miles to Cut Baltic Cables  -Russia Suspected of Plotting to Send Incendiary Devices on U.S.-Bound Planes  -The Misfits Russia Is Recruiting to Spy on the West  Further Listening: -Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations with Vladimir Putin  -How Ukraine Built a Weapon to Control the Black Sea  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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5.41 - 15.394 Kate Leinbaugh

Earlier this year, our colleague Bojan Panczewski met a source in a swanky hotel bar. The source worked for a European security agency.

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16.294 - 34.561 Bojan Pancevski

So we were kind of exchanging notes on that and talking about other stuff. And then, you know, after a few cocktails, I just asked him, so what's keeping you busy now? And he was like, well, you know, among other things, this conspiracy to set airliners on fire.

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36.923 - 46.285 Kate Leinbaugh

The source told Boyan a story that sounded straight out of a spy novel. So Boyan and his Wall Street Journal colleagues began investigating it.

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47.025 - 61.708 Bojan Pancevski

So we pieced the puzzle together and we found out that the Russians had come up with an ingenious way to smuggle undetectable incendiary devices and put them on airplanes.

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62.349 - 64.229 Kate Leinbaugh

That sounds terrifying.

65.103 - 87.801 Bojan Pancevski

Yeah, I've spoken to veteran intelligence operatives, police officers, politicians, historians, and this was not even happening at the height of the Cold War. Russia, or rather then the Soviet Union, wasn't attempting conspiracies that might end in kind of mass casualties of Western civilians.

92.093 - 126.389 Kate Leinbaugh

This plot was alarming, and European intelligence agencies saw it as a big step up in Russian attacks in Europe, a violent conflict that has largely stayed hidden. Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Kate Leinbaugh. It's Friday, December 13th. Coming up on the show, Russia's escalating shadow war in Europe.

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163.086 - 171.192 Kate Leinbaugh

Before Boyan heard about the plot to set fires on airplanes, he'd been reporting on strange events happening across Europe.

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