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Trump 2.0: Shaking Up Europe

21 Feb 2025

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The Trump Administration turns its focus to Europe as President Trump signals a willingness to cooperate with Russia. WSJ’s Alex Ward joins Ryan Knutson and Molly Ball to discuss what that means for an end to the war in Ukraine. Further Reading: -Trump’s Turn to Russia Spooks U.S. Allies Who Fear a Weakened NATO  -Trump’s Attack on Zelensky Signals New World Order Taking Shape  Further Listening: -Trump 2.0: The Musk-Trump Bromance  -R.I.P. CFPB?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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6.621 - 7.701 Ryan Knutson

Where should we start today, Molly?

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8.681 - 11.402 Molly Ball

Why don't we just pick a place at random, say Ukraine?

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12.022 - 30.526 Ryan Knutson

You know, you just spun the globe, put your finger on it. It just so happened to be the place where all the news is right now. Because this week, diplomats from the U.S. and Russia met to negotiate on the future of the war in Ukraine, which was something that the Biden administration was not willing to do without Ukraine at the table.

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31.266 - 37.651 Ryan Knutson

But the Trump administration is willing to do without Ukraine at the table, which marks a pretty big shift in how the U.S. deals with Russia.

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38.411 - 54.572 Molly Ball

It's a very big shift. I think... It's too soon to say exactly what the results of this will be, but at least rhetorically, it is a massive shift in the way America talks about our position in the world and our alliances.

55.192 - 62.136 Ryan Knutson

Should anyone be surprised about this based on the way Trump talked about Ukraine and the rest of the world during the campaign?

62.837 - 66.939 Molly Ball

Yes and no. Like so many things Trump does, it is shocking but not surprising.

67.399 - 77.206 Ryan Knutson

A lot to talk about today, as always. From The Journal, this is Trump 2.0. I'm Ryan Knudson.

77.527 - 78.267 Molly Ball

And I'm Molly Ball.

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