The United States is a land of strange legends, wild history, and government coverups, but the same can be said of our friendly neighbor to the north, Canada. Throughout our time at this channel, we've covered a number of odd tales from the Great White North, and today we decided to dive into what tends to make them different from those within the continental 48. Welcome back to The Lore Lodge...Oh, Canada Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbTvQPMaB-HAm8SGxAsHhEFdd6NzSnv2g&si=TNrti6j3fyFfhu2ehttps://www.bunkerbranding.com/pages/the-lore-lodgeSubscribe on Patreon to support The Lore Lodge for just $1 per month! https://patreon.com/thelorelodgeGet our new signature coffee blend at https://tablowroastingco.com/products/the-lore-lodge-mt-pocono-perkShop our online retail store, find other content, and buy our partners' products at https://linktr.ee/theaidanmattisDiscord: https://bit.ly/jointhelodgeShop sustainable products at https://www.gaiaindustrees.com/ using code "LORE"Join this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCctfIbo24UITlmfJbednOqA/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are the challenges of jury duty?
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Thornberry has been called for jury duty and that that makes my life hard. So if you'd like to express your displeasure, I don't know, just just tweet general anti-government things and then put like Aiden Thornberry as the signature.
Considering I'm generally anti-establishment, it's not against the grain for me.
Yeah, just the more absurd you can make his alleged statement, the better. I once heard this man say that the government would be better if it were run entirely by left-handed goblins, because at least that way, you'd know that they were intentionally shortchanging you on everything.
Not gonna lie, the left-handed bit kind of really threw me for a loop about where that came from.
Exactly. You want him to think about it. You want to be like, what's that a dog whistle for? Fair enough. Like, you know, just... Fair enough. Yeah, I don't know. I told him to just walk in there and say that he thinks, you know, cops never get it wrong.
I'd love to be a good upstanding member of society, but I need you.
You have to be here. Our job does not allow me to do that. Yeah. Now, I will say if I were called for jury duty and it was the RCMP, I would be on that because.
Well, then it would just be hunting for sport.
Yeah. Then you're just like, you know, OK, how can I how can I mess up these people's day? How can I watch how catastrophically they have failed? Because if there's one thing I, you know, here's what you do. You walk in and you say that you're sure that the local police department always gets their man. Meanwhile, the RCMP actually has that slogan.
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Chapter 2: How do police handle missing person cases in Canada?
As we know, I am very familiar with the quote unquote woo woo. And I find it very interesting. You you. I love the woo-woo.
You take particular interest in inserting the woo-woo elements of that into videos that otherwise, arguably, don't need it in there.
Dude, I love the woo-woo. I love our woo-woo. I love their woo-woo. I don't care whose woo-woo it is. It's interesting. So, yeah, no, I think, you know, but I think that there is a contingent that probably sees a lot of Native American communities up there as backwards or adversarial and don't realize that maybe some of the distrust comes from their own treatment of these peoples over the years.
Which, again, how do you not notice that? How do you have all these stories that I. God, what was his name? Jack Fiddler. Up in, I want to say it was Manitoba. Might have been further east. But story was that, you know, this guy Jack Fiddler, he was a Wendigo killer up in Canada. Up in like the far, far north. About as far north as the Algonquian groups go. And...
In his tribe, in his community, they believed that if somebody got to the point where they were going to become a Wendigo for whatever reason, the best thing you could do is euthanize that person. And this was usually requested by the person who thought they were turning into a Wendigo, which was usually that person starving.
And it's ironic that they eventually convicted this guy for murder now that the Canadian government, in fact, does kill people. for being sad. Um, I know I'm simplifying it, but you get the point. The irony here is that they were like, ah, well, you can't euthanize people who are terminally ill. That's murder.
And now Canada euthanizes people who are terminally ill because that's cheaper than actually treating them. Not even terminally. Yeah. Sometimes just chronically Canada, you scary. Um, I mean, granted, I think it was the Dutch that started that, but you don't have to copy the Dutch Canada.
I think there are some states you can do that as well. Really?
At least for terminally ill patients, yeah. Terminally ill, I kind of get it. That's a choice I understand. It's kind of up to them at that point. Exactly. I think I would probably rather not spend my last days wasting away in a hospital bed knowing there was nothing I could do about it. Agony? Nothing. Hmm. Yeah. There's an argument to be made, but...
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Chapter 3: What is the Vanished Village story?
And for context, everybody, the grizzly bears on Kodiak Island of Alaska are the largest grizzly bears on the planet.
I believe so. Yes. Yep. They are routinely 10 feet tall and 800 pounds. They are massive. And he went bow hunting. He went bow hunting for Kodiak grizzly bears.
I also don't want it to fly under the radar too much. When he said tagging Siberian tigers, it means literally like going into the Siberian wilderness to find tigers to then tag and track their positions.
In one case, he went into, they found a Siberian tiger den with a cub. And everyone was like, oh, this would be an awesome research opportunity. We could tag a cub and see what Siberian tiger movements are like when they're from the time they're infants. This is huge. The only problem being nobody wanted to risk their life going into the Siberian tiger den, even when the mother was not there.
Nobody except for Bart. who proceeded to go into a Siberian tiger den and tag a Siberian tiger cub. Now, to be clear, he wasn't like, you know, just sneaking up behind Siberian tigers and popping a clip on their ear and going, ha ha, I gotcha. They would tranquilize them first. But still, one of the most dangerous jobs you could possibly have. And he was an expert at it. He was him. He was him.
So later on, he's like, I'm going to go. I think he was moose hunting up in Reed Lakes in the Yukon. Um, he took supplies for two weeks, set up his camp, and it looks like from what they found there after he disappeared, they it looks like he had maybe one meal that he didn't cook, hadn't started to fire.
All of his supplies were still in their containers and everything, and his little raft was gone. The RCMP got there, looked around for an hour and went, oh, that's weird. He must have walked, you know, 20 some miles to the nearest settlement, which is a gas station on a river, which he probably didn't do. And if he did, why did he leave everything behind? What was the point?
And if he did, why did he not contact someone such as, you know, the float plane pilot? What's up? Like the float plane pilot who was supposed to come pick him up. Why did he not contact that guy? That's who realized he was missing. Got there and he's like, huh, Bart's not here. That's weird. I should call someone.
So of course, Bart's friends have to actually show up and find his belongings and then go, hey guys, something happened here. Can you investigate? So the RCMP investigated and determined it was a bear or wolf attack, even though all of the conservation experts they talked to who were accustomed to looking at bear and wolf attacks and identifying them went, that wasn't a bear or wolf attack.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of Canada's treatment of Indigenous peoples?
Oh, I think it might have been like Astro Lounge. Yeah. Yeah.
That sounds right.
Yeah.
Great. Watch it not be. Great album. I know. It is now. The early 2000s were such a good period for entertainment.
Such a wild time overall. My buddy Brian sent me a promotional spot for Supernatural from back then. Oh, God. Dude, it's hilarious. Oh, I'm sure. It looks like a Drake and Josh promotional spot on Nickelodeon. The vibe just is not even remotely for the show.
I will say it's getting to me lately, going back and watching early Supernatural, early Criminal Minds, early House. And the shows are starting to show their age. Oh, yeah. No, you want to know? I rewatch those shows like once a year. Yeah. Usually just while I'm playing video games, just got it up on the side or whatever. And it's, it's this, this is the first time.
And I think it's because it's about 20 years now. This is the first time I've sat there and watched house and been like, oh, oh, that's this. Like it's, it's more than just the, the tube monitors and the flip phones. It looks old. I will say the, the first season I'm on season three, right? So am I. Yeah. Oh, weird. I don't think it looks that old.
It's not like it looks, it's not like watching a sixties movie, but it's not like watching something that came out this year. Right, yeah, because it's clearly in a studio. Yeah, there's more filters, it's fuzzier. I mean, House isn't quite as bad, but there's a lot more set camera angles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not as modern.
Yeah, that's fair.
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Chapter 5: What strange legends exist in Canadian folklore?
That's insane. Yeah.
Yeah, that'll mess with your head, won't it?
You know what's so interesting, though? I think that music will persist much longer than music that is now 100 years old.
Oh, yeah, definitely. I wonder why that is. I think partially just availability and quality of the recording. Partially, but I think to some extent, I think the...
variability too yeah there's an there's a level of relatability and honesty within media and art that has been on like a weirdly exponential increase and you know who we should have we should sit down and do an episode with about that luke eckles from off the record another lore lodge production well actually a redacted media production uh if you haven't checked out off the record the first episode features me
So go check it out. But that would be a good episode for his show, too. Yeah, it would. Just sit down and talk about why music from the 70s is so much easier to listen to than music from the 40s. Because there is still stuff from the 40s, but it's like, how many names can you remember compared to how many names you can remember from the 70s?
Exactly.
And most of the music... Sinatra, Martin, Frankie Valli.
That's the thing, the most heartfelt music from back then were all love songs.
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Chapter 6: How do different Native American tribes' stories compare?
Don't know if we're going to keep with that schedule, but if we don't,
we will let you know yeah i think it would only get more frequent exactly if anything so yeah that's a fun show we i've i've been watching our episodes i don't watch this show i don't watch the friday videos because i've already done them yeah i've been watching history unhinged and it's we we titled that show perfectly oh yeah it's so good oh my god perfectly i i I'm trying to think.
There was something that was said in the most recent one.
Oh, the he was Greek thing?
What was the he was Greek thing?
Oh, we were talking about how wrestlers and people would fight and they would douse themselves with either butter or oil, specifically oil for the Greeks. Yeah. And so I said, oh, so Diddy was just Greek.
Yeah, and then I... Oh, yeah, when I said... Diddy is the Socrates of our time, I believe was the quote. Yes. I looked at Amanda when I saw it. I was like, oh, that's the one that gets us canceled. That right there. That was some Socrates slander right there, honestly.
Yeah, there are, in fact, unhinged comments. My entire purpose on the podcast is to bait the unhinged comments or make them myself.
Somebody did recently comment on something asking what I was going to blame on Mark's next. And I said, give me something. I will find a way to blame anything on Karl Marx simply for the lulz.
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Chapter 7: What mysteries surround the Nahanni Valley?
What you got? So I was just looking at some of the replies and they're generally mixed, but everybody is overall very supportive about essentially just like whatever you guys need to do. OK, we're here for it. I appreciate it.
I appreciate you guys are here for that. One day we will have the freedom to just ask you guys, what do you want us to cover this week and do it?
Patreon would help with that a lot. Yes. Even just a dollar a month. Less than you would get a coffee for or a beer, depending on what your vices are. Yeah. I mean, you don't have to, obviously, but it's one of those deals where the more people sign up for the Patreon, the more freedom we have to cover the things that we really want to cover. Yeah. Like JonBenet. Mm-hmm.
But anyway, so Gom, who has been a member for 19 months. Gom, you are a real one, dude. Very real one. Says, just a heads up, Wendigo's Red Thread podcast needs a third host now. Why don't you give him a call tonight? Get your Wendushion.
I'm going to be honest, if he wanted us for it, I feel like he would have asked. Yeah, more than likely. You know, we're going to have him on Thursday for Weird Bible, so.
Oh, it's this Thursday.
Yeah, well, it was going to be last Thursday, but he was running on zero hours of sleep, and I had not yet had time to read the Book of Elijah. So I was hoping he was going to lead, and then he was like, I might need you to take point on this one. And I was like, ooh, I needed you to take point on this one.
So I'm reading the Book of Elijah this week, and then we should be able to have a very good conversation about it on Thursday. So if Red Thread's looking for a new host, I obviously would... I would be honored to be asked to do that. At the same time, I know that we are small fish in a big pond, and we might not have the draw that they want.
And I have a tendency to get a little detail-oriented in a way that more entertainment-focused channels might not appreciate. And I'm not... That is not a dig at all. It's just I know I can be extremely academic about things. So...
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Chapter 8: What can we learn from the Mad Trapper of Rat River?
Yeah, this motley group of social outcasts who have taken refuge in the northeastern hills of the state and inbred to the point of mutation. The group, which has been alleged to be comprised of a mongrel hybrid of renegade Indians, escaped slaves, Hessian mercenary deserters, and West Indian prostitutes have become known as the Jackson Whites. Hoo boy! That might be worth covering.
That might be worth covering. We went to go find the Jackson Whites. That would actually be nuts. Yeah. It's the crawlers from The Descent.
Basically. A7XMShadows19 for $9.99 says, I'm happy you guys give me something to listen to when I'm driving around on a forklift Monday and Friday nights. Really helps with the boredom.
I'm glad, and I hope you're certified.
Otherwise, someone's going to get in trouble. It's not good.
Yeah, no. If you don't have your forklift certification, they're going to whack your pee-pee.
Not a bad thing.
We need to have a discussion off the air.
I don't know. I've been watching too much Klax McBee. What?
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