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Episode 3 - Krystal Ball

22 May 2025

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Krystal Ball is a prominent political commentator and co-host of the YouTube show "Breaking Points," which offers independent news and commentary.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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0.373 - 27.438 Matt Jones

All right, welcome everybody. It is episode two of the Matt Jones Show. And for this episode, I thought I would bring on someone with ties to Louisville, Kentucky. I met this woman in Louisville many years ago when we tried to do a project and it was a lot of fun. Crystal Ball, she has been on everything from MSNBC to a number of different podcasts. She does Breaking Points with Crystal and Sagar.

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27.618 - 28.539 Matt Jones

I think I got that right.

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30.539 - 56.444 Matt Jones

um and has been on everything i mean she's been on every if there's a channel crystal you've been on it at some point about that joe rogan podcast you've been everywhere nice to have you on it's nice to see you matt it's a pleasure it wasn't that many years ago was it i don't know you know it does feel like it doesn't feel like that we used to go to lunch in louisville at the tie place on frankfurt avenue and argue about things and now we're 15 years later and here we are

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57.369 - 62.794 Krystal Ball

Yep, indeed. It's a pleasure, and I'm honored to be guest number two. I didn't get the number one slot, but I'll take number two.

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62.914 - 87.775 Matt Jones

Well, yeah, Bomani was on my first one, so I decided to have him back again. Now, you do politics, but what I really like about you is even though you're on the left, like me, you come at things from a different perspective. So if somebody was to say to you, Crystal, explain your sort of political ideology in a short phrase, how would you explain it?

88.715 - 109.021 Krystal Ball

I mean, I would describe myself as populist left. So for me, you know, and a sort of economic analysis is really central to the way I view politics. And that doesn't mean that, you know, other things aren't important, that I don't focus on other things. Certainly right now in Trump 2.0, I'm focusing on a lot to do with deportations to due process and all those sorts of things as well.

109.442 - 128.37 Krystal Ball

But, you know, at my core, that's that's kind of where I come from. And, you know, it's it's informed by this. Another thing I think you and I both have in common, like You know, I'm from a rural area. I'm from an area that is much more conservative. So I think that has affected my political views of, you know, having that kind of outsider perspective, viewing things a little differently.

128.431 - 154.827 Krystal Ball

And then what was really formative for me was I lived in the industrial Midwest, very close to East Palestine, where there was that horrific train explosion, all of that, you know, in Ohio. And that area was completely decimated by this bipartisan agenda for NAFTA and for opening up permanent normal trade relations with China. And it really was a bipartisan project.

154.967 - 174.577 Krystal Ball

And I saw the way that town after town there was just devastated and the impact that had on people's lives. And so that really kind of opened up my eyes to the political system and has made it so even though I'm definitely on the left, there's no doubt about that. You know, I tend to vote for, you know, I vote for Democrats because they're more aligned with my view than others.

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