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The MeidasTouch Podcast

Ben Meiselas and Anand Giridharadas on Fearless Reporting

06 Mar 2025

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In this must-listen episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast, Ben and Brett Meiselas sit down with bestselling author and renowned journalist Anand Giridharadas for a powerful conversation about the dangers of oligarchy, the unchecked influence of billionaires, and the urgent fight for democracy. Anand has been at the forefront of exposing how wealth and power are manipulated to undermine the public good—insights that have profoundly influenced the work of the MeidasTouch Network. From the erosion of democratic norms to the manufactured narratives that prop up the ultra-wealthy, this discussion pulls no punches in dissecting the forces threatening the future of America. If you care about holding the powerful accountable, you don’t want to miss this conversation. Tune in now, and don’t forget to subscribe to MeidasPlus.com to be the first to hear more exclusive interviews like this. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0.189 - 14.667 Ben Meiselas

Hey everybody, Brett from Midas Touch here. My brother Ben and I just had such an incredible conversation with Anand Giridharadas on the Midas Plus substack. Anand is a brilliant journalist and best-selling author, and he has been warning about the oligarchy and the threat of billionaires in the United States for years.

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14.927 - 33.671 Ben Meiselas

His work has actually informed a lot of what we do here at the Midas Touch Network. and I found his comments today to be incredibly illuminating. We've been hosting live conversations with incredible guests like this every Thursday on Midas Plus. That's the Midas Touch sub stack. So make sure you visit MidasPlus.com now and sign up so you could be the first to hear conversations like this.

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33.892 - 62.063 Ben Meiselas

Without further ado, enjoy the interview. All right, welcome everybody to our weekly Midas Touch Network speaking series. I'm here with Anand Giridharadas. You all know him from the ink right here on Substack. And Anand, on your Substack today, I saw also... celebrating, what, two decades from when you first wrote at the New York Times. The article is still up right now.

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62.183 - 78.255 Ben Meiselas

And you wrote this piece today reflecting back on what it was like to start as a journalist and then what it's like now, kind of the mixed feelings that you have, but the importance of being an independent reporter and keeping your independence. And

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78.715 - 103.093 Ben Meiselas

You know, one of the things I've always respected about your work, in addition to the content that I agree with your thesis that you've been talking about, especially as it relates to the dangers of the oligarchy. But Anand, you've been calling this out now since the beginning of your career. This isn't you're jumping on the oligarchs are bad fad.

103.153 - 131.282 Ben Meiselas

You've been, by the way, if people want to jump on that fad, jump on it because it's true. But you've been warning about it really since day one. All of your books have really been focused primarily on that topic and this class war that's being inflicted by these oligarchs, but also the way they were doing it, almost shapeshifting and pretending that they were doing it. And you said...

132.182 - 152.533 Ben Meiselas

They're waiting for this mask off moment. Just you wait. They're hiding behind their philanthropy and winner takes all. You said they're hiding behind their philanthropy, but they'll have this mask off moment once they amass enough power and they're going to let you know who they are. And it was such a prescient book, you know, 2018 to where we are today.

152.613 - 168.507 Ben Meiselas

So first off, I wanted to let everybody know. And I am someone who appreciates your work. I am a consumer of your sub stack. And you and I had been talking over the past six to nine months. So I'm glad we can collaborate and find some time to work together. Yes, I love it.

168.567 - 188.623 Anand Giridharadas

I love what you guys are doing. I think you are role modeling a spirit of fighting that has essentially become absent. from the political left in this country and you are role modeling it back to life. And I so appreciate that. You know, it's funny you talk about that book, Winners Take All, which is my third book. I was joking the other day to a friend of mine, but I was only half joking.

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