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I'm joined by Democratic Congress member Jim Hines, the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee.
Congress member, given your position, the sensitive intelligence you see as a ranking member of the Intelligence Committee, I got to ask you your reaction to what we saw last week and frankly over the weekend with President Trump and his administration's attacks on President Zelensky of Ukraine.
Yeah, well, we're in a mighty weird world, right? And I mean, you can just see it out there. The Russians are thrilled. Dmitry Peskov, the spokesman for Putin, is saying it looks like the United States and Russia are aligned now on our goals. Remember, this is the country that is responsible for 70,000 deaths in Ukraine that brutalized a struggling democracy.
And we have always, certainly in my lifetime and well before, the United States has always stood with the good guys, right? You know, in 1941 and 1942 and World War II, we didn't say, oh, so many people are dying in France and the UK and Germany. And, you know, we should bring an end to this. We've always stood with the good guy.
And right now you've got Donald Trump and his administration fighting.
trying to convince the American people, despite the civilian bodies you saw, the raped women, the children who were murdered in the town of Bucca, you've got the Trump administration trying to convince the Americans that this is some irrelevant conflict where we're just trying to stop the violence between two pesky combatants, right?
We, for the first time in our history, in a major conflict, certainly in Europe,
are trading our heritage of standing up for what is right and good and liberty in favor of Donald Trump's bizarre internal hatred for Ukraine in particular, but for anybody that it perceives as not powerful and strong, and that's radically changing the way our allies think about us, the way we're thinking about us, and it's just enormously concerning.
It's like, why is this even a question? How is this even a close call? Like Russia wants to destroy us. Ukraine is our ally. Like, what the heck are we even talking? Like, do you have that reaction sometimes? I mean, look, your committee in particular was a... was a very bipartisan community.
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