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I'm joined by California Governor Gavin Newsom. Governor, when you and I last spoke, it was the day after Donald Trump announced his tariffs against the world. You warned everyone how dangerous and harmful it was going to be. Three weeks later, what's your reaction?
Well, I mean, 10X worse than we even feared. And we were pretty sober when we got together the day after, quote unquote, Liberation Day. But we've seen what's happened to the world economy. The coin of the realm is trust and how...
We have eroded trust around the globe, how this is going to take, I think, years and years and years to unwind despite what Donald Trump believes and how the markets are behaving as they zig and zag.
And as you know, since then, California, the largest state in our union size of 21 state populations combined, now the fourth largest economy in the world based on IMF figures that just came out, International Monetary Fund figures yesterday. No state has been more impacted by the tariffs economically. And as a consequence, we're the first state to sue the Trump administration.
And we're damn confident that we're going to win that lawsuit. Tell us about that lawsuit, Governor. How important is it? Well, it's critical. I mean, he has no unilateral authority to impose these tariffs. And interestingly, the Koch brothers backed a lawsuit saying exactly the same thing.
So look at the ideological prism here, a big blue state and a progressive governor and some of the most conservative quote unquote leaders in this country representing the same point of view. And you may have seen just in the last 24 hours, 12 states' attorney generals just joined and are also suing the Trump administration, making exactly the same claim. And it's interesting, final point on that,
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