
MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas interviews Democratic Senator Adam Schiff on Trump’s despicable meeting with Zelenskyy. For more, visit MeidasPlus.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm joined by Senator Adam Schiff. Senator, I want to get your reaction to that travesty in the Oval Office today where Donald Trump was attacking Ukrainian President Zelensky in the Oval Office with J.D. Vance laundering talking points, seems directly from the Kremlin. You had President Zelensky, in my view, kind of holding his ground, defending his country and, frankly, all democracies.
I want to get your reaction to what you observed.
I was horrified and sickened by it. I think about what other generations of Americans have done going off to war in World War II, fighting for our freedom, fighting for democracy, fighting for our values. To see them so utterly betrayed in this meeting, it is just really incomprehensible to have the President of the United States and the Vice President of the United States
siding with the Kremlin dictator, regurgitating his talking points, a country that brutally invaded its neighbor, that has massacred tens of thousands of people, that has kidnapped children, that is torturing POWs. That's the guy they're defending, and they're abusing the president of Ukraine, Zelensky, who was forced to defend himself, defend his country, and all in the service of what, exactly?
The mineral rights, is that what this is about? That President Trump is upset he didn't get the mineral rights to Ukraine? Are we that transactional? Does nothing matter to us but some kind of protection racket? Or I don't know what, but whether this was a deliberate sabotage, an orchestrated sabotage, or whether a small, petty, weak President Donald Trump
was just offended that the president of Ukraine stood up for his country. I don't know, but we are going to be living with the consequences of this for a very long time.
Your colleague, Senator Lindsey Graham, a Republican, he spoke after the meeting and he said that he thinks that after that, Moscow will be more afraid than ever. Let me show you what Senator Graham had to say and I'll get your reaction to it.
I told President Trump, I said, there's two ways to look at this. Your interaction with Zelensky was maybe the best television I've ever seen, but it's deeper than that. The world is now watching how Trump behaves and acts when he's pressed. I thought he stood up for America, that we're a good people. We want to help you, but we're going to be respected.
So I think Moscow is probably more afraid of Trump than ever. Hope the Chinese are, and I hope the Iranians are. As to Zelensky and Ukraine, to the Ukrainian people, America wants to help you. The way the meeting went today, you made it almost impossible to help you.
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