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The Nerve with Maureen Callahan

The Real Jon Hamm is Not Who You Think, Plus What Happens When "Mean Girls" Grow Up and Get Meaner

22 Apr 2025

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On the debut of "The Nerve with Maureen Callahan," Maureen gets into the real Jon Hamm, in a segment you won't see anywhere else - a horrifying story of an alleged hazing Hamm did as a frat brother, the dismissive way Hamm has addressed the incident in recent years, his past relationships, his penchant for playing a certain type of character, and his manufactured PR image today. You’ll never look at him the same way again. Plus, a deep dive on adult female friendships as portrayed in "The Real Housewives," and how "mean girls" only seem to grow up get meaner with age, featuring behavioral analyst Dr. Erin Foster. And author Susannah Cahalan joins to discuss her new book "The Acid Queen," and the story behind her hit memoir "Brain on Fire."Guests:Susannah Cahalan: https://www.susannahcahalan.com/aboutDr. Erin Foster: drerinfoster.com

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2.534 - 21.879 Maureen Callahan

Hello and welcome. Welcome to The Nerve. I'm Maureen Callahan. I'm your host. It's episode one. So I want to tell you a little bit about what to expect. This is a non-safe space. This is a space where we are going to talk about all of the things in pop culture, celebrity scandal, crime.

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23.88 - 49.806 Maureen Callahan

books fashion music you name it we're covering it um we're gonna kick off today with an incredible little reported story involving an a-list star who you will never look at the same way again i to my mind think this guy is worse than harvey weinstein and that says a lot because i think harvey weinstein's a pretty bad guy um and i also just wanted to take a moment to thank everybody who sent me messages

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50.39 - 70.098 Maureen Callahan

over the past few days after hearing how nervous I was on Megyn Kelly's show last Friday. I saw them all, I read them. They really have helped me a lot. I was so preoccupied after leaving Megyn's studio and I've been doing her show in that studio for, I'm gonna say like a couple of years now.

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70.138 - 96.752 Maureen Callahan

So I know how to get from point A to point B. And I was walking out of the studio, back to the car, the lovely driver who was taking me home I had my head down. I was so consumed with my own nerves and preoccupations. I walked straight into a branch, a knotty, thick tree branch. I get to the car door. This driver's like, you're bleeding. I'm like, are you serious? I pull out my compact.

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97.212 - 117.889 Maureen Callahan

I'm like, my entire upper face is just bleeding. I can't even see the source of the bleed. You know, like your head, you get the tiniest laceration and it's just like a geyser is gushing. Like I get in the back of the car. I'm like, sir, I'm so sorry. I'm not going to get blood anywhere, but I am bleeding out. He says, do you want to go back? And I was like, absolutely not.

118.049 - 139.387 Maureen Callahan

I'm completely mortified. Anyway, I have since gotten it together. I can assure you. And I think we should just get into it. So the first person I would like to take aim at in our very first show is one Jon Hamm. And this segment, I promise you, you're never going to forget what you hear.

141.055 - 159.313 Maureen Callahan

He is everywhere right now because he's got a show on Apple called Your Friends and Neighbors and it's number one. I don't know if it's like number one all over or if it's just number one in drama, but it's doing really well. It's already been renewed and he just did SNL to promote it. Let's take a little bit of a look at that.

160.007 - 173.79 Jon Hamm (clip/audio)

But even though it's been a while, I've still been on the show a lot. In fact, I was checking my own Wikipedia, which I often do, and I found out that since then, I've made 14 cameos. Yeah.

176.812 - 195.549 Maureen Callahan

Okay, number one, he was looking at his own Wikipedia, which I would bet there's a big part of that Wikipedia that he would love to have just deleted. But he doesn't mention that. Instead, he's congratulating himself on being so freaking awesome. He's Jon Hamm and you're not. Are you as impressed with Jon Hamm as Jon Hamm is? I don't know that you could be.

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