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The New Yorker Radio Hour

Alan Cumming on “The Traitors” and His Brush with Reality Television

04 Mar 2025

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When Emily Nussbaum introduced Alan Cumming at the New Yorker Festival, she said, “Plenty of actors light up a room, but Alan Cumming is more of a disco ball—reflecting every possible angle of show business.” Cumming appears in mainstream dramas such as “The Good Wife,” and also more indie projects like his one-man version of “Macbeth”; his performances in musicals such as “Cabaret” are legendary. He also owns a nightclub; his memoir “Not My Father’s Son” was a bestseller, and so on. And Cumming plays the host on the Emmy-winning reality show “The Traitors.” He combines “a dandy Scottish laird—sort of James Bond villain, sort of eccentric, old-fashioned nut who has this big castle.” Spoiler alert: “It’s supposed to be my castle. It’s not.” Nussbaum asks about his perspective on reality TV before he started on “Traitors.” “Zero, really,” Cumming confesses. “I was a bit judgy. … The thing I don't like about a lot of those shows is that they laud and therefore encourage bad behavior and lack of kindness.” Before “The Traitors,” Cumming’s first brush with reality television was on “Who Do You Think You Are?,” a BBC genealogy program that confronted him with shocking secrets about his own family. “It made a good memoir, I suppose,” he jokes. “Just how awful that was. It was awful. But no, I don't regret it.”

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30.56 - 44.528 Vincent Cunningham

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50.732 - 56.055 Unknown Speaker

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57.415 - 76.769 David Remnick

This is the New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. Plenty of actors light up a room, but Alan Cumming is more of a disco ball reflecting every possible angle of show business. That's how the critic Emily Nussbaum introduced Alan Cumming when they sat down at the recent New Yorker Festival. And he does seem to do it all.

76.809 - 101.347 David Remnick

He acts in mainstream dramas like The Good Wife, as well as more indie projects like his one-man version of Macbeth. Cumming is a Broadway legend. He also owns a nightclub. He recorded a duet about Scottish independence with a Gaelic rapper. His memoir, Not My Father's Son, was a bestseller, and he stars in the Emmy-winning reality show The Traitors on Peacock.

101.927 - 106.43 David Remnick

Here's Alan Cumming at the New Yorker Festival, speaking with staff writer Emily Nussbaum.

107.591 - 113.175 Emily Nussbaum

So straight out of Scotland, but eternally beloved in New York, welcome Alan Cumming. Thank you.

115.996 - 116.597 Alan Cumming

Thank you very much.

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