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The New Yorker Radio Hour

Danielle Deadwyler on August Wilson and Denzel Washington

19 Nov 2024

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Danielle Deadwyler, who first grabbed the spotlight for her performance as Emmett Till’s mother in the film “Till,” stars in a new film called “The Piano Lesson”—one of August Wilson’s Century Cycle plays about Black life in Pittsburgh. Denzel Washington has committed to adapting and producing all ten of Wilson’s Century Cycle plays; “The Piano Lesson” is directed by his son Malcolm, and his other son John David co-stars. Deadwyler plays Berniece, a widow who has kept the family piano after her migration north to Pittsburgh; her brother, who remained in Mississippi, wants to sell it to buy a plot of land. Themes of inheritance and history are central to the siblings’ conflict. “Histories are passed as we keep doing things together . . . through struggle, through joy, through lovemaking, through challenge,” Deadwyler explained to the New Yorker’s Doreen St. Félix. “The Piano Lesson” is playing in select theatres, and will be available on Netflix starting November 22nd.

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This is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

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11.687 - 32.439 David Remnick

This is The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. Denzel Washington, of course, is one of the great presences in American film, going back 40-plus years. But he's also made his mark as a producer. Specifically, Washington has set out to adapt for film 10 plays by the late August Wilson, the 10 plays known as the Century Cycle.

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33.183 - 49.464 David Remnick

Viola Davis starred in Fences and Ma Rainey's Black Bottom, and now Danielle Deadweiler stars in The Piano Lesson. A couple of years ago, Deadweiler gave an amazing performance in the film Till as Emmett Till's mother, and she was profiled in The New Yorker by Doreen Sanfelix.

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50.652 - 81.915 Danielle Deadwyler

I first saw Danielle Dedweiler perform in Station Eleven on HBO. And in Danielle's latest role, she plays Bernice in the film The Piano Lesson, a period piece set in 1936. So we have the backdrop of the Great Depression and the Great Migration. It's a chamber drama about family, about the creation, the potential dissolution of the Black family at the beginning of the 20th century.

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85.464 - 115.594 Danielle Deadwyler

In the piano lesson, the Charles family is rent asunder by this object, this talisman, which is a piano, on which are carved the likenesses of their ancestors. Bernice is the sister of the Charles family. She is a widow. She has lost her husband. She is a mother to young Maritha. We meet Bernice in the middle of the night. She's awoken by her brother, Boy Willie.

115.694 - 127.824 David Remnick

It's five o'clock in the morning and you come in here with all this noise. You can't come like normal. She's got to bring all that noise with you. Oh, hell, woman, I was glad to see Dokey. I come 1,800 miles to see my sister. I figured she might want to get up and say hi.

127.964 - 142.616 Danielle Deadwyler

Boy Willie has driven up from Mississippi to Pittsburgh to confront her about this piano. He wants to sell it, and he wants to use the money that he can make from the sale to buy the farm that his family worked on as sharecroppers.

143.476 - 156.447 Danielle Deadwyler

Bernice can't fathom that, and she feels that the piano is the representation of the Charles family, of her mother's grief, and that to let it go would be to lose identity.

158.908 - 172.795 David Remnick

The brother, boy Willie, is played by John David Washington, who's of course Denzel's son. And Malcolm Washington, Denzel's other son, directed the film. Here's staff writer Doreen Sanfelix speaking with Danielle Deadweiler.

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