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Don’t Throw Away Your Long-Term Security for Quick Fixes

Tue, 22 Apr 2025

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Chapter 1: How can I recover financially after losing a paid-off home to a fire?

44.065 - 45.986 Caller

Hi, Dave. Thank you for taking my call.

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46.246 - 46.506 Dave Ramsey

Sure.

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46.546 - 70.96 Caller

What's up? I've been a big Ramsey fan since I was young. My dad taught me to be smart with my money and to listen to what you had to say. Well, thank you. My husband and I, our house burned in January, and it was a total loss, the structure and all the content. And it was paid for, but it was severely underinsured.

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73.102 - 103.207 Caller

And so now we're in a situation where we haven't had a mortgage since 2019, but we only got $230,000 from the insurance, and it's going to cost us roughly $525,000 to build a similar house. And that's just kind of scary for me. We've never had a mortgage that large. I don't think... I mean, I know that we can afford it. We have a nice income.

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103.787 - 109.551 Caller

We're currently debt free, but I'm just trying to make sure that I'm making the right decision.

110.691 - 112.192 Dave Ramsey

And you don't have any money.

114.373 - 126.14 Caller

Well, we have the money from the insurance. Go ahead. We have about $5,000 in an emergency fund, but other than that, that's it.

127.181 - 128.722 Dave Ramsey

So what's in your retirement accounts?

130.884 - 133.346 Caller

There is $47,000 in my retirement account.

Chapter 2: What steps should I take if I have no income and am about to fall behind on payments?

479.459 - 480 Jade Warshaw

Yeah, I know.

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480.04 - 492.965 Dave Ramsey

Yeah. And it would automatically, whatever the value of the house was, it did that. That's what it is, yeah. State Farm was the first one to do away with that because they were getting cleaned up. And State Farm's really interested in State Farm.

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493.903 - 508.972 Dave Ramsey

And so they were getting their clock cleaned with this stuff, and so they changed it, and they have a large enough footprint in the homeowner's insurance business that it started changing the whole business. And for a few years there, you could get some of the independence to write replacement costs, but hardly anybody will do it anymore.

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509.453 - 529.454 Dave Ramsey

It's pretty much stated value now, and you've got to go back and just revisit it every year and make sure you raise it. You'd think they'd come in and raise it once you raise it because it raises the premiums. That's true. But they don't follow up, whoever it is. None of the insurance companies do. So make sure you get a review with your insurance broker every year and raise them.

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529.514 - 535.081 Dave Ramsey

And that's what Jamie faced there. That's so sad, Jamie. I'm so sorry y'all are facing that. This is The Ramsey Show.

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Chapter 3: How do I negotiate with debt collection agencies effectively?

1438.798 - 1466.151 Dave Ramsey

Okay. All right. So the first rule is you take care of your own household first. Now, what that means is the number one thing in your budget before you buy anything else is food at the grocery store. No food in restaurants when you're in collections. You're broke. You don't get to go to a restaurant. A restaurant is a luxury. Mama be at home. You're a sole income provider, so mama be cookin'.

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1468.208 - 1478.353 Dave Ramsey

Mama B, home economist, coupon clipping. She's going to be carrying all the economic weight she can carry while she's got those babies, okay?

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1480.294 - 1480.514 Caller

Yes, sir.

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1480.534 - 1484.476 Dave Ramsey

All right. She going to sign up for that? You okay with that? She okay with that?

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1484.496 - 1487.378 Caller

Yeah, I think we can come to an agreement. Yeah.

1487.398 - 1511.471 Dave Ramsey

All right. No eating out, no vacations. You're broke people. Until you're not broke people, you don't do this anymore. Food is first. Before you buy anything else, you feed your little kids. Before we talk about any idiot at the repo company, he's way down on my list of things to worry about for you. Big deal that you get these priorities straight.

1512.331 - 1522.098 Dave Ramsey

Second thing is you take care of water, lights, gas. You have the ability to operate your household with the utilities. Are you behind with any of them?

1523.534 - 1526.075 Caller

Just the electrical bill, but I have a plan to get that caught up.

Chapter 4: What budgeting and financial priorities should I follow to regain control?

Chapter 5: Why is it important to maintain and update homeowner's insurance coverage regularly?

339.548 - 341.67 Caller

We've already decided that as well.

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341.83 - 344.512 Dave Ramsey

Mama needs help. You can't borrow to help her.

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346.053 - 346.473 Caller

Correct.

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346.973 - 359.677 Dave Ramsey

No more. It's over. Because you got this start now, but you're starting in the hole again. And so we don't like to repeat this process. Okay. All right. That's a big deal.

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360.177 - 362.138 Caller

I understand. Okay.

362.218 - 363.218 Dave Ramsey

So, yeah, if you do that.

363.238 - 366.36 Caller

So I pretty much just start the debt snowball over.

366.58 - 374.623 Dave Ramsey

No, there is no debt snowball. You're starting the baby steps over because there's not a debt snowball because there's no debt except the house. The house is baby step six.

374.643 - 374.883 Dr. John Deloney

Okay.

Chapter 6: What are the emotional tactics used by debt collectors and how to handle them?

1601.648 - 1605.01 Caller

He's also threatening to sue me. Oh, just tell him to have at it.

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1605.49 - 1623.427 Dave Ramsey

Just get in line, buddy. Right now I'm getting my mortgage current where my babies live. You get to be at the back of that line. Bite me. No. You don't get any money until my babies are fed and they have a place to live and the lights are on. That's your first job, man. Yes, sir.

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1623.668 - 1641.519 Dave Ramsey

Because you're not going to make it emotionally if you keep putting these idiots at the front of the line because they threaten you. If he wants to sue you, tell him to have at it. We'll just file Chapter 7 bankruptcy. He'll get nothing. Bite me. I'm serious. Okay. All right. This is how you got to talk to him and you got to get it straight in your head. What's most important.

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1641.839 - 1659.543 Dave Ramsey

He makes his job is to make you angry or afraid. And that moves him to the front of the line. I want you angry and afraid of nothing because your kids are fed. Your house is current and your lights are on and mama's got food in the pantry. Then, then you live to be, you can throw back your shoulders and now we can fight like a man.

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1683.863 - 1682.602 Caller

$231.

1683.943 - 1684.864 Caller

Okay.

1685.024 - 1685.665 Dave Ramsey

Is it current?

1686.792 - 1686.972 Caller

Yes.

1687.373 - 1703.926 Dave Ramsey

Really? I'm shocked. Good. One down, baby. All right. We keep it current then. Okay, so if you've got a car to drive and gas in your car, you're not going out to eat, you've got food and you've got a place to live, do you feel emotionally more stable?

Chapter 7: What financial advice does Dave Ramsey have for handling credit card debt and collections?

1798.653 - 1817.461 Dave Ramsey

These guys are specialists at emotional terrorism. It's what they do for a living. Okay. Because if he comes and sues you and takes your paycheck, you can file chapter seven bankruptcy. He'll get zero. I'm not recommending that because I think you can settle for this idiot to this idiot for probably four grand and he'll go away. You remember what the deficit was on the repo?

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1819.263 - 1822.226 Caller

No, no.

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1822.246 - 1826.39 Dave Ramsey

The total, the total owed to them after the sale of the car is what?

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1828.936 - 1830.196 Caller

Yes, sir. I can't remember.

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1830.556 - 1836.258 Dave Ramsey

Okay. But he wants $5,000 up front and then $800 a month, right? So it must have been $10,000 or $15,000.

1837.618 - 1837.938 Caller

Yes, sir.

1838.138 - 1870.093 Dave Ramsey

Okay. So they'll settle for a quarter on the dollar. So he'll probably take about $4,000 for this whole thing and walk away once you get him back on his seat. But now he's standing over the top of you. Hey, listen up. Everyone is at risk of identity theft. I don't care if you're a hermit living off the grid listening to the show on a battery-powered radio.

1870.453 - 1889.683 Dave Ramsey

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1889.904 - 1914.991 Dave Ramsey

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