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Stick to the Plan Even When It’s Tough

Wed, 16 Apr 2025

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πŸ“ˆ Are you on track with the Baby Steps? Get a Free Personalized Plan πŸ“± Watch the full episode for free in the Ramsey Network app. Dave Ramsey and Jade Warshaw answer your questions and discuss: "A company wants to use my land for a solar farm. What questions should I be asking them?" "Should we pay off my girlfriend's student loans or my mortgage first?" "Is it necessary to at some point get a credit card? My mom says it is, but I want to think otherwise," "I'm trying to follow the Baby Steps and it's not working. What am I doing wrong?" "My wife feels like our budget is too restrictive. How do we figure out how much fun money to have?" "I have a high income but a lot of debt. Should I pay off commercial debt or personal debt first?" Next Steps: βœ… Help us make the show better by taking this short survey! πŸ“ž Have a question for the show? Call 888-825-5225 weekdays from 2–5 p.m. ET or send us an email.Β  🎟️ Dave Ramsey and John Delony are going on tour this month! Get tickets today πŸ›’ Get your copy of Build a Business You Love today! πŸ’΅ Start your free budget today. Download the EveryDollar app! Connect with our Sponsors: πŸ›’ Stop paying more and start shopping smarter at Aldi 🌱 Get 10% off your first month of BetterHelp πŸ“±Go to Boost Mobile to switch today! πŸ₯ Learn more about Christian Healthcare Ministries 🏑 Get started today with Churchill Mortgage πŸ”’ Get 20% off when you join DeleteMe 🏦 Go to FAIRWINDS Credit Union for an exclusive account bundle! πŸ₯— Save 15% on your first Field of Greens order with code RAMSEY ⛨ Find top Health Insurance Plans at Health Trust Financial πŸ’Έ To find out more about student loan refinancing, check out Laurel Road πŸ’» Visit NetSuite today to learn more πŸ—‚οΈ Use promo code RAMSEY for 18% off at The Nokbox πŸŽ₯ Get your tickets for The Chosen Season 5! πŸ’΅ Learn more about Timothy Plan πŸ› Get started with YRefy or call 844-2-RAMSEY πŸ” Visit Zander Insurance for your free instant quote today! Explore more from Ramsey Network: πŸ’Έ The Ramsey Show Highlights 🧠 The Dr. John Delony Show 🍸 Smart Money Happy Hour πŸ’‘ The Rachel Cruze Show πŸ’° George Kamel πŸͺ‘ Front Row Seat with Ken Coleman πŸ“ˆ EntreLeadership Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What should I consider before leasing my land for a solar farm?

63.34 - 96.549 Caller

good morning jade and dave so such a pleasure to talk with you thank you so much sure how can we help well i am 70 and working a great deal um trying very hard to make it possible to retire by 80. um recently so this last year i've had two offers from a company that would If I followed those, they would probably make it possible for me to retire within a few years.

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97.99 - 121.662 Caller

But I feel a need to really please this company. And I'm not sure how to go about that, to be real thorough and making sure I'm not going to get myself into a big pickle. Another thing is that my husband would never approve of this. very poor health and doesn't expect to live long.

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121.682 - 123.683 Dave Ramsey

What are we talking about? What are we talking about?

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124.843 - 143.768 Caller

This is a company that establishes solar farms, um, across the nation and they pay a good rate of rent for your acreage and they, and, uh, and you had two different offers from the same company.

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144.136 - 149.557 Dave Ramsey

Mm-hmm. Okay. And this is basically they want to lease the land for 15 years, right?

151.078 - 152.278 Caller

For 30 to 40 years.

152.298 - 178.013 Dave Ramsey

30 to 40 years. Okay. All right. I've looked at these deals. I've had some friends that had some that were a little bit older than you, and the – Only question in the deal is twofold. Number one, you've got to make sure the company is solvent in the event that they're strong financially, in other words.

178.514 - 184.98 Dave Ramsey

In the event they go bankrupt, obviously this lease is canceled, and then you've got a bunch of junk on your farm.

185.36 - 185.561 Dr. John Deloney

Yes.

Chapter 2: Is the American Dream still attainable for immigrants today?

318.605 - 323.986 Caller

Mm-hmm. Well, thank you for that. That has been a consideration.

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324.746 - 327.429 Dave Ramsey

I would sell 10 acres and use that money to live off of.

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328.83 - 333.335 Caller

Yes, and we could do that, and it's also something my husband is not eager to do.

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333.395 - 343.405 Dave Ramsey

I'm sure he would not want to do either of these things, but that's emotional, and we're talking about how you're going to eat, which is what you're worried about. You're working at 70 years old, worried about how you're going to eat at 80. Yes.

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345.049 - 368.7 Dave Ramsey

Yeah, and so your husband didn't save enough money when he was young and working to provide for his wife's food, and so we're going to sell some of his land to do that. I'm sorry, that sounds cold, but, I mean, that's the way my mind works, okay? And so, yeah, I'm going to pick out how I can carve off and make –

369.64 - 393.692 Dave Ramsey

a million and a half on 10 of the 45 acres that are maybe some premium, a premium cut of the 45. Right. And you just got to decide how you're going to parcel that out in Portland, Oregon. And I'm going to start talking to a real estate agent about subdividing this and how I can where I can drop a line with a surveyor. And I'm going to do that to eat with. And you still get to live in the place.

394.053 - 396.873 Dave Ramsey

You've still got 35 acres, which is very nice.

396.913 - 398.274 Jade Warshaw

And it's the way that he wants it.

398.334 - 415.838 Dave Ramsey

And if you do it properly, you get to configure which 35 it is, right? But we've got to get enough out of the other to sit down with an investment broker and create an account. And if you did it right, you probably could get a million and a half. If the whole thing's worth three, I bet you could sell a fourth of it for a million and a half. I bet you could.

Chapter 3: How can millennials and Gen Z afford to buy a home today?

473.224 - 475.065 Jade Warshaw

And they've got to dispose of that.

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475.145 - 478.548 Dave Ramsey

And it's, you know, it's a big old bunch of junk to haul off.

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478.608 - 478.848 Jade Warshaw

Holy smokes.

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479.628 - 494.215 Dave Ramsey

And yet we bought it thinking, oh, we're going to make all this money over all these years when people are buying solar. Now, you can buy solar. There's nothing wrong with buying solar. I don't have a problem with that. This is a different discussion here. This is people leasing her land. And then what they do is they sell it to the local.

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494.956 - 497.517 Dave Ramsey

They sell the electricity that's created to the local utility.

498.43 - 498.79 Jade Warshaw

Interesting.

Chapter 4: How should I handle $700,000 debt from student loans and mortgage?

498.81 - 499.991 Dave Ramsey

And that's where they make their money back.

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500.291 - 508.716 Jade Warshaw

Yeah, it just didn't feel like a fair deal. $4 million over 40 years for a piece that's worth $3 million today felt, at the very least, I'd want more money out of the deal.

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508.736 - 511.437 Dave Ramsey

Well, you still own the ground, but you can't do anything with it.

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511.618 - 514.439 Jade Warshaw

That's what I'm saying. So at that point, like you said, it's kind of useless at that point.

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514.459 - 566.499 Dave Ramsey

Yeah, exactly. Good discussion. It's the lean against it. It's an interesting discussion. I've not had that on the air before. I did have it, obviously, off air one time. This is The Ramsey Show. Hey, listen up. Everyone is at risk of identity theft. I don't care if you're a hermit living off the grid listening to the show on a battery-powered radio.

566.86 - 586.077 Dave Ramsey

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586.297 - 611.377 Dave Ramsey

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611.597 - 646.163 Dave Ramsey

Visit Zander.com or call 800-356-4282. Well, look who's in the house. Brian Buffini, one of the nation's top business experts, founder of Buffini & Company based in Carlsbad, California. The firm is dedicated to sharing the powerful message of lead generation systems. primarily started out in the real estate world. Brian and I met each other probably 20 years ago.

646.884 - 662.732 Dave Ramsey

He's a New York Times bestselling author and speaks for us regularly at Entree Leadership. He'll be coming back with us in 26 and was in town doing some other stuff, came over and did our staff devotional this morning and owned it again. Absolutely fabulous. Welcome back, my friend.

Chapter 5: What are the challenges and solutions when borrowing from family for a mortgage?

760.33 - 764.712 Brian

You know, Dave, you're building your brand today compared to building your brand when you started out, you know.

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764.892 - 767.254 Dave Ramsey

There was no internet when we started. There was no internet.

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767.294 - 789.331 Brian

And then capital is available when needed for certain things. So I just think that, and I do think a little bit, and again, that's why a little bit of adversity would be helpful to America, is folks want easy, quick, millionaire overnights. That's why internet gambling is huge now. Bitcoin is big now. I want success. I want it now.

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789.871 - 792.934 Brian

And I think one of the things about immigrants is you had to sacrifice to come here.

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793.507 - 793.887 Jade Warshaw

That's right.

794.108 - 805.198 Brian

I mean, I just left, my mom just passed last week. You know, you have to leave your family and you have to come, you have to pay a price to get here. You guys teach delayed gratification. There's a reason you have a big market because it's a foreign concept.

807.296 - 822.469 Jade Warshaw

So there's like a level of skin in the game that you're saying. I was reading a couple of statistics and it was something like one in three U.S. millionaires are immigrants. At one point, like over 48 percent on the Forbes 500 were immigrant run companies, first born or, you know, child of an immigrant.

822.809 - 829.014 Jade Warshaw

So you're saying that skin in the game and coming from a sense of not not approaching it from a sense of entitlement. You think that's the.

829.394 - 849.799 Brian

I wrote a book about I'll give you seven principles in 30 seconds. Number one is a voracious openness to learn. And number two is a do-whatever-it-takes mindset. Number three is a willingness to outwork others we just talked about. Number four is a heartfelt spirit of gratitude. Immigrants are very thankful to America and thankful for the opportunity, thankful to their customers.

Chapter 6: Is it necessary to get a credit card to build credit?

884.783 - 904.877 Brian

It's a touchy subject, and that's why the legal immigration route is a sacrifice. If people come here for entitlement programs, you've destroyed the very reason to be an immigrant. Wow. You actually take away all of the seven gifts you have. You take away that. We proved it in Ireland. Ireland, we had 450,000 Eastern Europeans come to Ireland in the early 2000s.

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905.277 - 919.762 Brian

And when Ireland got into trouble and had to do an austerity program, cut back all the programs, 450,000 people left the country. So they didn't come to contribute. They came to take. You have to be willing to come and make your own. You have to be willing to come and make a name for yourself and make a business for yourself and make a life for yourself.

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920.336 - 926.854 Dave Ramsey

And, you know, what's interesting, the Americans that I run around with anyway do not resent that immigrant.

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926.914 - 927.094 Dr. John Deloney

Huh.

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927.435 - 947.074 Dave Ramsey

They don't resent the one that came here to add value. They don't resent the one that comes here legally. I don't hear that at all. And so it's not a racism thing, and it's not a, you know, I just hate people that weren't born in America thing at all. Because America is the land of immigrants, for sure.

Chapter 7: How can AI tools help small business owners improve efficiency?

947.154 - 952.619 Brian

It does a terrible disservice to people. If you take away the very essence of being an immigrant, it does a terrible disservice.

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952.967 - 971.919 Dave Ramsey

So the podcast, the Brian Buffini podcast, we're talking to New York Times bestselling author Brian Buffini today, is called It's a Good Life. Be sure and check it out. So what's been your experience doing a podcast? Because you're a speaker, a coach, extraordinaire, and then you sit down behind a microphone like this now.

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Chapter 8: How do I stick to my budget and get out of debt when expenses keep rising?

972.22 - 976.442 Brian

Yeah, well, it's a little different. You know, like when I wrote a book, I found out as a writer I'm a great speaker.

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978.484 - 980.985 Dave Ramsey

And then I found out when I was on TV I got a face for radio.

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981.025 - 985.969 Brian

Exactly. And, you know, just because you can buy a microphone doesn't make you a broadcaster.

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986.07 - 986.55 Dave Ramsey

That's true.

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986.79 - 1004.625 Brian

And being Dave Ramsey is not as easy as people think. You know, here's what I do. I get a chance to interview people I'm really interested in and ask them things. I had you on today, and I asked you as a business mentor of mine, as you have been, I got to ask you some questions that helped me in my business today. I got a couple hundred employees I got to take care of.

1005.126 - 1013.792 Brian

I got a pretty good business going. And, you know, so I get a chance to meet some fabulous people. and ask them their stories, and you hear some wild stuff, you know.

1014.512 - 1034.983 Dave Ramsey

The largest and most successful coaching company in America today coaching real estate agents, by far, not even a close second. I grew up in the real estate business, and so one of the things I've been asked lately, and I was asked this the other day on a podcast that I was a guest on, is Gen Z feels like they can't buy a house.

1035.724 - 1036.304 Jade Warshaw

Millennials, too.

1036.772 - 1044.495 Dave Ramsey

Yeah. And some millennials feel like they can't. Talk about that because you're square in the middle of it.

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