The Russell Brunson Show
The Queen of Viral Content: Adley Kinsman Breaks It All Down | #Marketing - Ep. 25
Wed, 09 Apr 2025
This episode of The Russell Brunson Show is for all the social media marketing folks out there. Or, pretty much anyone that wants to dial in their social media content and marketing with next level strategies that are working RIGHT NOW in today’s environment! There’s a good chance you’ve seen my guest on this episode, but I had the chance to sit down with Adley Kinsman… AKA the queen of viral content! Her videos rack up billions (yep, with a B) of views every single month. We talk about how she went from bankrupt musician to one of the most influential creators on the planet... and how she did it without spending a dime on ads. We dive deep into the exact storytelling framework Adley uses to hook viewers, keep them watching, and turn casual scrolls into serious attention. She also breaks down how businesses of all sizes (even trash can cleaners and real estate agents) can use her system to dominate organic social, attract followers, and drive real sales. This one is part content strategy, part creative masterclass, and part kick-in-the-pants for anyone who knows they need to show up more consistently online. Key Highlights: The chicken-in-a-bathtub video that changed everything… and what it taught her about attention How Adley reverse engineers videos using the “Missy Elliott Method” The biggest mistake most business owners make with social content Why “retention” is the only metric that matters… And how to improve it What Trial Reels are, and how they could change your entire content game The step-by-step process Adley uses to write, script, and film multiple viral videos a week How cultural relevance will beat contextual relevance every time (this is HUGE for your brand) If you’ve ever wanted to build a bigger audience, drive more organic traffic, or finally show up with confidence on camera, this episode is your roadmap. https://sellingonline.com/podcast https://clickfunnels.com/podcast https://30days.com https://www.instagram.com/adley Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal https://nordvpn.com/secrets Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to northwestregisteredagent.com/russell to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at LinkedIn.com/CLICKS Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is Adley Kinsman and how did she become a viral content creator?
I'm so good. It's all better now. Honored to be here with your community. I've similarly been following you since I was a bankrupt musician. Oh, wow. So many, many years. Read the books and just followed your journey as well. You've inspired so many people, and it's an honor to be here.
Oh, thank you. Well, let's start there. Tell us about it. So you're a musician who was struggling. How long ago was that that that part of your journey began?
I feel like I have a similar story to most people who end up being marketers is it's you step into this from a necessity, from a need of knowing that for me, God has a bigger calling on my life. And I was stuck in musicianship waiting for a suit behind a desk to give me permission to entertain is what it was for me. Permission.
to serve people and if and where and how and could, why I would ever be successful. And that didn't sit very well when you know that you have capabilities. For me, it was to entertain. And so stumbled into video, started making videos while I was touring with Blake Shelton, actually.
So having a nice run as an independent artist, but just knew that I was always more interested in how to market the music than I was actually making it. I was like, I can sit and write songs and scratch this itch to create. But if nobody ever hears it, then what does it matter? Like it just becomes a hobby at that point. And so started making videos while I was on the road.
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Chapter 2: What storytelling framework does Adley use to engage viewers?
Nobody watched them, by the way, for years. I was just getting my reps in, right? This isn't a time thing. It's definitely a reps thing. And so just got the reps in. And then long story short, one day put chickens in a bathtub and and improv this silly little bit that I was making videos for meme pages and improv this bit.
And it did 19 million views overnight and grew me 110,000 followers in 24 hours. And I was like, this is it. If I want attention on anything, whatever my mission, message, product, or service is, it could be a towel. It could be a water bottle. It could be a company. But if I don't know how to get attention, it's not going to work. And organic social is free.
And we are now living in the greatest wave of free advertising the world has ever seen, which is once we started getting our reps in and accruing a billion views a month. We've done a billion views a month every month since 2020.
And once I was so confident we could pretty much do this for anybody, that's when, as we were talking about before we started rolling, it just feels really good now to help other people grow.
It shows you your system and formula works when you can have a guy who cleans trash cans for a living or whatever the company is, real estate on down, um, that you can show how to get millions of views on command just by tweaking their content strategy just a little bit. So that's the journey in a nutshell.
So cool. And looking behind you, there's all your, you know, YouTube things, which you said, YouTube is the last platform you went on and you've already like lapped everybody outside 25 times. It looks like, which is amazing.
Yeah. This is crazy, Russell. One YouTube short, one 59 second video got us 2 million subscribers for one of these flags. You get these flags for a million, one 59 second YouTube short that took us maybe 15 minutes to make gained us 2 million subscribers.
I'm working way too hard. I've been trying for like a decade. I'm at like 300,000. So yeah. Well, yours are more meaningful. Selfishly, I'm going to learn what you did.
I won't even show you the video because it's quite embarrassing. It's so silly, right?
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Chapter 3: How can businesses adapt Adley's viral strategies?
So we were putting in reps at our height, 18 minute, three minute or long videos a day, every day for years. That's a lot of videos. And all we were studying was how to get more retention. And how could I get Russell to spend not 30 seconds with me, but three minutes and 30 seconds with me, watch 18 minute long Facebook lives. And it all followed the same pattern of hook,
And then not scratch that itch until the very last three seconds. And YouTube follows a similar format, right? And so does actually every story that we tell. Look at any movie that you watch. I love the Taken series with Liam Neeson because I think he's a bad boy. He's a bad boy. It's awesome what he's doing. And for a good reason, but one, the stakes are very high, right?
So you have to raise the stakes. That's where I think most people go wrong is they just play really low stakes in their videos, but stakes determine why people care. So are you telling people how to make a million dollars with their funnel? That's a pretty high stakes, right? It works. People care about those things. So what is the theme of your video and are the stakes high enough, but also how,
How are you giving them enough value to where they want to stick around? And we would play with these thresholds. And I won't lie to you, and you probably already know if you're familiar with me. For years, we made videos that were bad, you guys, subjectively, like cringe content.
We made Facebook change their algorithm so many times and actually install watch bait penalties because of these videos. Because... It was fascinating that people say they want to watch really thoughtful and integrity-filled content, but in reality, they want to watch cat videos. They want to watch things that are surface level that aren't too deep, right? They're standing in line at the bank.
Their kid's tugging at their leg. They're making dinner. They're laying in bed with one eye open. So we realized almost the worst the videos got... the more hundreds of millions of views they got and the more we got paid.
And so we started playing with those thresholds and dialing in this formula to where thousands and thousands of viral videos later, we were able to see, wow, of the ones that earned the most and got the most attention, a very clear formula appeared. And then we took that formula and started making videos exclusively with it.
And I'm not going to look you or anybody else in the eyes and say, if you use this formula, every single video will go viral. No, but I will say our batting average increased to about a seven out of 10 video getting over a million views for sure. And so then we started applying that to different niches because think about that. Like if we could compel people to,
We won't call it by its street name, which is cringy. We'll call it what it is as marketers, which is compelling content. We would compel people to watch stuff that was so bad, right? And that they didn't even like. If we could compel people to watch videos they didn't even like, how could we compel? Imagine good stuff, right? That was the thought. It still is. And so then we just keep testing.
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Chapter 4: How does Adley create compelling hooks in her content?
that storytelling, but it's all built around retention. Cause if you and I are going up against each other and Russell has more watch minutes with the algorithm than me, the algorithm is going to say Russell's content is more valuable and he's going to get more eyeballs and more served up, more people serving his content, the algorithm.
Interesting. So I want to go back. So Facebook's when you first let it into 2020 is right. It's like COVID that, that timeline is when you started publishing on Facebook. Yeah. And so we get 2019, 2019, we get people example.
Cause I, again, I've seen a lot of them, but like you said, like a bad big, how would you pull in any random example, but how you do a video, how you'd be hooking them and what, like what that kind of looked like originally. Cause I love people understand the evolution of kind of where you've gone with it.
Sure. But some of these videos would look like as a guy dressed up in a ghillie suit, right? And so he looks, it's like hunting gear, right? He's in full camouflage. He looks like a bush and he'd be sitting there like a tree in someone's house, poking someone's butt and or their shoulder. And then they turn around and be like, who's there? What's that?
And it's like Chinese physical comedy, but people can't stop watching until the person realizes it's the guy dressed like a tree and it's not a real plant. Right. We anchor on pranks a lot because they follow the formula so perfectly. There's a setup, and then it doesn't pay off until you realize the prank is executed, right?
So we were, for a long time, not able to crack 10 million, 20 million views on a video. And all our friends were getting 100 million hitters. And I'm like, dang it, what are we doing so wrong? Why can't we get 100 million? We're capped at 20 million. And it was anchoring and retention for suspense. And all of it was suspense.
So we did the oldest trick in the book where I put cream cheese in my husband's hand, he's sleeping, and then we're going to tickle his face and he's going to slap himself, right? Everybody knows that bit. And we just raised the stakes a little bit more. I had a fly sound and I'm just buzzing the fly app on YouTube over his head until he smacked himself.
That did 110 million views and probably made us 55 grand. dumb video that the whole world knew was going to happen. But it was just the watch time was so good.
We were I think I saw it because you think it'd be like you just cut the thing where it slaps really fast. But how long did it drag out? How long were you Three minutes and one second.
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Chapter 5: What role does retention play in viral video success?
301 is when you hit it and it just ends. Every video is three minutes on the nose, three minutes and one second so you get paid. But that silly, silly video was our first hundred million hitter because we finally understood watch time and retention and that our job for the next three years and still is in our publishing division is just to keep people on these apps for long periods of time.
And so that's still your job. That's my job. As people who are putting content out there, you get rewarded If you make content that people spend time consuming. So how can we do that? How can we become great storytellers?
Whether the video is six seconds long now or three minutes long, if you can tell great stories about your business and make people feel something, they're going to stick around and the platforms are going to reward you for it.
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Chapter 6: How can Adley's methods be applied to specific industries like weight loss?
How is somebody going to, why is somebody going to buy Pam's course or be trained by Pam rather than any other fitness trainer? What is her business unique selling point? And what is that marketing angle that all of the content then is a spoke from that wheel. And so we dialed it in, dialed it in, and she really helps women get great booties.
And that's fantastic because people love looking at the human body, just guys or girls. So if she's doing a wall sit, okay, she, how can we go from pancake to peach in 90 days is we just reformatted her offer a little bit from pancake to peach. Everybody wants that. So now she can do a wall sit video or she can do a,
I'm standing now, but like a glute extension where her glute, you have a girl, she's on all fours, glutes extended, and she's teaching the form in this, but she puts a peach maybe on the girl's booty and says, if this falls off, you have to hold the glute raise. That's the whole point. So if this peach falls off, then you have to start all over.
So now we're watching this girl shake and hold the thing, waiting for the music's dialing in, the keyframes going in on this peach that's shaking. Is it going to fall off? Maybe she makes it difficult and puts Legos under her knees. So if she drops that, she's going to step on Legos now.
Like how can we raise the stakes to turn a challenge and an entertainment factor into teaching the proper form for a glute raise? And just make her a little bit more memorable because she has a fantastic personality. So let's use that. So we just help people find ways to use this formula in a way that mimics their offer and helps them tell better stories and be more entertaining.
I'm curious because I can see how that works for a video or even an ad. But let's say... let's say someone's got a YouTube channel. Like, would you recommend that you have people where like most of the videos they're doing are following this formula consistently on their channel?
Or is this more like you do these every once in a while to increase engagement and subscribers and you could run as an ad? You know what I mean? Or what's, how do you, how do you train people? What's the, your thoughts on that?
We say, if you're in growth mode, which I think right now, every single person listening to this should be in growth mode because personal brand is scalable for the first time in history. With AI now, the level, like the playing field is level. And that makes it an arms race. Whoever gets the most attention gets the most business. So how can we help you get more attention? I would say...
And this may be different for everybody, but if you're in growth mode, I would do 50% what we call top of funnel, which is more widely relatable content to attract new eyeballs and heat up your profiles and show Instagram or whatever platform that you're putting this on, all of them, hopefully. but that you're making content that is widely shareable, high engagement and relevant.
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Chapter 7: Should you use viral content strategies for your entire YouTube channel?
Yeah, just recently. I don't know him super well.
He sits in his car and teaches people how to have better conversations. Uh-huh.
avoid conflict so this guy is a trial lawyer from texas he has six million instagram followers a trial lawyer from texas do you think he's talking about law no he's not advertising his law firm but he's teaching people on the macro how to have better conversations how to avoid conflict how to talk to somebody who's gaslighting you how to overcome it when somebody says this
And how to just have better conversations. Now he's got a bestselling book. He's crushing it because he's unleashing himself a little bit. He's making himself more widely relatable. And now his law firm's doing amazing. But I think people really need to understand that there's two different types of relevance. There's contextual relevance, which is what most people are aiming at.
They're the law firm you think about when you're in Austin, or they're the restaurant you think about when you want a great burger, or you're the fitness trainer, right? That people think about. That's contextual relevance. But then there's cultural relevance, which is above that and takes no extra effort to just go a little bit wider and And then you become contextually relevant by default.
So now when I think of trial lawyers, I automatically think of Jefferson as the best because I see his content all the time because he goes wider. He does at least 50% top of funnel, shareable, engaging content. So now he is who I think about. Another example would be Dude Wipes. These are butt wipes, you guys.
They have a branded content series where they do a makeshift UFC ring and they take really breakable things and they just pendulum swing them until they bust, but they make it feel like a UFC fight where they are wiping, taking Dude Wipes and wiping the fighters, the breakable things, off in between rounds. And it's hilarious and they get hundreds of millions of views.
So now when I think of wipes... I buy, I, I'm, I've been incepted. I buy dude wipes now just because they're the only one that I can name. Right. And they built an amazing brand going wide and entertaining the masses. And then they have their conversion content all throughout their pages as well.
Yeah.
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Chapter 8: Why is it important for businesses to be in growth mode now?
Yeah, a lot of times we try to niche down because, again, in an offer and a funnel user, we're trying to niche down. But this is like pre-funnel. Like you said, a lot higher – a bigger sea of people to message so you can bring down and come down. The top of the funnel versus the bottom of the funnel, obviously.
It's all a funnel. Yeah. It really is. And you've done such a great job of doing this where you're on the macro when people you've aligned yourself with that word, with the word marketing, with the word funnel. So nobody can think about funnels without thinking of you.
You're on the macro, you know, and that's just my encouragement to everybody else listening is look at the people you're looking up to their chances are you found them because they spoke to the macro more than they just talk to their avatar in every single video.
There's another legal one that – you said the other guy, the YouTube channel Legal Eagle. I don't know if you've seen them, but they have like 3 million followers. But he's interesting too because he's very similar. He's got a law firm. He's got ads throughout his law firm. But his videos are amazing because he'll pick a movie and he's like – Like say he's dumb and dumber.
And he's like, here's every law that they broke in dumb and dumber. And he goes through this hilarious, you see the funny scene. And then he's like, this is illegal, you know, and all this stuff. And he just, it's like, he has the relevance of all the movies. Then new, new movies come out. He's like riding that train.
Cause he's like, Oh, here's all the laws that they broke in home alone 12 or whatever the next thing is. And it's just, it's, it's crazy to see his viralness. And then, but he also hits every political thing. Like everything that's top of top of, uh, you know, it's hitting, hitting press, like everything. He's got the legal analysis on each thing. And, um, and it's just been insane watching him.
And I was kind of thinking on my side, I'm like, man, how do I, how do I capitalize? Like, cause I think I get too stuck in, in the lower end too, with funnels and stuff where it's like, I'm talking to my funnel hackers, like these are the people. And it's like, I got to come a step up. I think also to make my, my stuff go more viral, more viral, you know what I mean? Um, It's interesting.
It's so hard. It's so easy to see other people do it and diagnose other people. I feel like marketers are so good at that. But self-diagnosing and reading the label from inside the bottle is so tough. That's why I have coaches. I know you have coaches. And we just have to have somebody else kind of just like tell us what to do and what they see in us and ask us the right questions to get us there.
Yeah. A hundred percent. Okay. So I'm curious on platforms. You said you start on Facebook and you've gone across and, you know, you have systematically dominated probably every platform out there, especially the most recent one, YouTube, as we can tell, which is amazing. But like for people nowadays, if they're just getting started, is there a place you'd recommend?
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