The Tucker Carlson Show
Dave Smith: Debating Douglas Murray, the “Woke Right” Narrative, and the Moment He Found God
12 May 2025
Dave Smith on the Douglas Murray debate and how he came to find God. (00:00) Dave Smith Breaks Down His Debate With Douglas Murray (10:11) The Biggest Moment of the Debate (15:30) The Moment Douglas Murray Destroyed His Career (35:54) The Real Reason They Want to Destroy Darryl Cooper (46:51) Sam Harris’s Attacks Against Dave Smith (1:09:00) How Con Inc. Tried to Buy Dave Smith (1:16:16) The “Woke Right” Absurdity Paid partnerships with: Silencer Central: Promo code Tucker10 for 10% off your purchase of banish suppressors at https://www.silencercentral.com SimpliSafe: Visit https://simplisafe.com/TUCKER to claim 50% off & your first month free! PureTalk: Go to https://PureTalk.com/Tucker to make the switch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Dave, I'm really glad to see you. I know you've been here before, but it's nice to have you back. I am an expert in all things Tucker Carlson. So, I know you've been asked this a million times, but I'm coming to this late. How do you assess the debate that you had with Douglas Murray? Now, it's been a month. How long has it been? Something like that. Something like a month, right?
Yep, a few weeks. Looking back, what was that?
It's an interesting question. I mean, I think essentially it was what everyone saw. It's like my first impression of it. My impression during it, during the first half hour of the debate, I was like, well... Douglas just embarrassed himself in front of the world. You felt that in real time? Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, it was... You know, look, he was ridiculous.
And it was kind of strange to witness as it was happening. I go, so you decided to open the debate... by just chastising everyone as not being as good as you, that the expert class ought to be the ones consulted that you, I mean, you know, you could argue what he exactly he was saying, but he was clearly saying that you, you guys on podcasts are simply not qualified to talk about these subjects.
Now you're saying this on the Joe Rogan experience, right? Of all places to go and deliver this message, this is the place guaranteed to turn the entire audience against you. And of course, I just think that, I think it's a ridiculous non-argument that never would have made sense. But coming off of the COVID years, the idea that you're going to convince people that you ought to kind of...
They ought to trust your opinions. That your class ought to be trusted was a ridiculous attempt.
But he's not even in that class. No, he's not. I know Douglas, and I think that I've always gotten along with him, and I think that he's clever. But he's clever in a boarding school way. He went to boarding school, as I did, and you instantly recognize it in the way that he debates class. which is by dropping references that suggest deep air edition that doesn't actually exist.
I think he's clever. He's got a kind of bullshitty boarding school vibe to him again that I recognize that I have sometimes. Right. So I'm not, you know, not trying to be holier than thou, but like the idea that he's an expert is absurd. He's a journalist like the rest of us who's been taken on PR tours in various countries by their governments trying to win his support. Got it. I've done that too.
Um, but he's hardly an expert on anything.
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