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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

20VC: Index's Shardul Shah on Why Market Size is a Trap | Biggest Lessons on Pricing from Leading Rounds in Wiz & Datadog | Why Benchmarks & Averages in VC are BS | How Index Makes Decisions and Why Growth & Early are the Same Investing Style

Mon, 16 Sep 2024

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Shardul Shah is a Partner at Index Ventures and one of the greatest cyber security investors of the last two decades. Among his many wins, Shardul has led rounds in Datadog, Wiz, Duo Security, Coalition and more. Shardul is also the only Partner investing at Index to have worked in every single Index office from London, to SF, to NYC to Geneva. Prior to Index, Shardul worked with Summit Partners, focusing on healthcare and internet technologies. In Today's Episode with Shardul Shah We Discuss: 1. Investing Lessons from Wiz and Datadog: Why does Shardul believe that TAM (total addressable market) is BS? Why does Shardul believe that every great deal will be expensive? How does Shardul evaluate when to double down and concentrate capital vs when to let someone else come in and lead a round in an existing company? How does Shardul think about when is the right time to sell a position in a company? 2. How the Best VCs Make Decisions: How does Shardul and Index create an environment of truth-seeking together, that is optimised for the best decision-making to take place? What are the biggest mistakes in how VCs make decisions today? Why does Shardul believe that all first meetings should be 30 mins not 60 mins? Why does Shardul believe it is so much harder to make investment decisions when partnerships are remote? What is better remote? 3. The Core Pillars of Venture: Sourcing, Selecting, Securing and Servicing: Which one does Shardul believe he is best at? What is he worst at? Does Shardul believe with the downturn we have moved into a world of selection and not just winning every new deal? Does Shardul believe that VCs provide any value? What are the biggest misnomers when it comes to "VC value add"? 4. Lessons from the Best Investors in the World: Who is the best board member that Shardul sits on a board with? What has Shardul learned from Gili Raanan and Doug Leone on being a good board member? What have been some of Shardul's biggest investing lessons from Danny Rimer? Why does Shardul hate benchmarks when it comes to investing?  

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0.089 - 23.205 Shardul Shah

The lessons to learn are don't be cute on price. Don't underestimate fantastic founders and don't overthink it. TAM is a trap. Go back and look at the S1s of some of the biggest public companies today. Their market caps are bigger than what they thought the TAM would be. The best founders find and expand market opportunities. We are in the business of finding fund returners.

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23.545 - 32.109 Shardul Shah

The power law dominates our business. Not being in a $10, $20, $50, $100 billion company is actually painful.

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32.329 - 58.22 Harry Stebbings

This is 20VC with me, Harry Stebbings, and I'm so excited to welcome today one of the best investors of the last 20 years. Few VCs have not one, but two $20 billion plus companies to their name. Shardul Shah, partner at Index Ventures and one of the best cyber investors in the business. Shardul has led rounds in Datadog, Wiz, Coalition, Duo Security, and many more incredible names.

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58.641 - 78.634 Harry Stebbings

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