The Zach Lowe Show
Cavs on the Ropes, Thunder and Nuggets Trade Blows, and Potential Giannis Trades With Rob Mahoney
12 May 2025
Just hours from the NBA draft lottery, Zach and Rob react to the Giannis Antetokounmpo news (1:05) and discuss how it might relate to who gets the no. 1 pick. Then they react to a pair of Game 4s yesterday: the Thunder’s gut-check win (27:17), as well as the Pacers' blowout (51:04). Finally, a look ahead to tonight’s matchups between the Knicks and Celtics (1:10:46) and the Warriors and Wolves (1:14:36). Host: Zach Lowe Guest: Rob Mahoney Producers: Jesse Aron, Jonathan Frias, and Mike Wargon The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Get started today at HubSpot.com/AI Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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All right, coming up on a loaded Zach Lowe show, we got Rob Mahoney on the lottery. The new Giannis News, courtesy of ESPN. Thunder Nuggets developing into a classic. Cavs Pacers, not so much. All things playoffs, Giannis lottery. Coming up with Rob Mahoney, the one and only on the Zach Lowe show. Welcome to The Zach Lowe Show. It's Monday morning. I'm in Chicago. The lottery is tonight.
And the lottery got a whole lot interesting about 30 minutes ago when Shams Charania at ESPN dropped what really sounds like a Giannis trade request soft launch, reporting that he is Open to considering a future that best fits him outside of Milwaukee. Hasn't made any decisions yet. Look, we've been down this road with Giannis before.
He's tiptoed to the edge twice at least and tiptoed right back when the Bucs made game-changing trades for Drew Holiday and then Damian Lillard. The difference now, as we have talked about before, Rob Mahoney, is that I don't see a game-changing trade that exists now that Dame has sadly torn his Achilles and is almost 35 years old. Rob Mahoney, waking up early on the West Coast to join us.
How are you?
I'm doing great. I'm just happy for you, Zach. You know, really, whatever icebreakers you had planned for the lottery room, you can throw them in the trash. You know, you get your easy material right here asking anyone and everybody about Giannis and his future and what's going to happen here. And I think what makes it exciting is that it's anybody's guess.
Yeah, it's going to be Giannis' talk over turkey sandwiches and a little bit of pasta salad maybe they bring in there sometimes. It's not a terrible spread. There will be coffee. If you want coffee at 6 p.m., you can have some coffee. Then we'll all watch together as someone gets their heart broken on live television and someone is elated.
Look, we talked about this after the Dame injury two weeks ago, exactly. And it's just a matter of Giannis and the Bucs, the Bucs and Giannis, whatever order it happens in. just both coming to grips with the fact that it's over. He cannot win big, big, big in the near to medium term future with the Milwaukee Bucks. And the only question that matters is, does he care?
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