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This is Gavin Newsom

And, This is Steve Bannon

12 Mar 2025

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Gavin is joined by host of the WarRoom podcast, former Trump White House chief strategist and MAGA architect Steve Bannon. IG: @GavinNewsomTikTok: @GavinNewsomSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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9.088 - 29.811 Gavin Newsom

This is Gavin Newsom. And this is Steve Bannon. Well, Steve, thanks so much for taking the time to be here. And I want to take this opportunity to sort of go back a little bit and talk about your history, a little bit about your motivations and where you see this country and, for that matter, the world going.

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29.851 - 42.617 Gavin Newsom

But it's impossible not to note the world that we're living in in relationship to everything happening with the markets, everything happening with tariffs, everything happening with CR and a potential government shift.

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43.297 - 50.219 Steve Bannon

Don't be giving tariffs stink eye. I don't want to start off with you giving it stink eye already. I'm a tariff guy.

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50.459 - 54.7 Gavin Newsom

I appreciate that. And we'll see. We'll see. We'll stress test that.

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54.74 - 69.124 Steve Bannon

The purpose I want to do this is I want to convert you to be a tariff guy also. This is part of the process to unwind you from being a globalist, to make you a populist nationalist. It's a long journey. It's a long journey, but I think you'll get there.

69.364 - 81.627 Gavin Newsom

This is part of the deprogramming, is it? Appreciate it. And by the way, for the record, I'm going down your rabbit hole right here. I'm not an absolutist as it relates to being against tariffs by any stretch of the imagination.

81.667 - 94.058 Gavin Newsom

And I thought it interesting where we what I think Biden tripled tariffs on aluminum and steel, which is getting a lot of attention in this country today as it relates to Canada. And Democrats weren't screaming and yelling about that.

94.138 - 103.384 Steve Bannon

So I mean, Fetterman, look, you've got you. By the way, thanks, Governor, for doing this. I really appreciate it. I wanted to have this conversation for a long time.

104.385 - 129.197 Steve Bannon

Two of the three best economic populists in the Democratic Party, who I think are kind of on an island, one of the best is Ro Khanna, Ro's economic patriotism, which we always kid him as just ripping off Navarre and my economic nationalism. He's an economic populist. So is Fetterman. Fetterman just announced, you know, we're here today during the CR.

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