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Today, Explained

From TikTok to 小红书

24 Jan 2025

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TikTok's uncertain future has driven a flood of users to a fully Chinese social media app full of opportunities for genuine cultural exchange. And it's given fresh fodder for proponents of a decentralized social media ecosystem known as the fediverse. This episode was produced by Travis Larchuk, edited by Jolie Myers, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Rob Byers, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast Support Today, Explained by becoming a Vox Member today: http://www.vox.com/members A logo for Xiaohongshu, aka RedNote, and a TikTok logo displayed on smartphone screens in China. Photo by VCG/VCG via Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0.683 - 22.195 Sean Rameswaram

TikTok is in a state of flux. About a week ago, it disappeared for about 14 hours, even though it didn't have to. Then it came back and sent everyone in the United States essentially a Trump ad. And then Trump enters office and signs an executive order saying he's going to kick the TikTok deadline down the road, but no one knows if that's constitutional.

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22.455 - 23.596 Jolie Myers

Oh yay, oh yay.

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23.696 - 34.905 Sean Rameswaram

In the meantime, a bunch of Americans downloaded a way more Chinese app called RedNote, and some of them started pledging allegiance to Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party. No joke.

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35.484 - 38.766 Steffi Xiao

So we're waiting in line, wanting to hand our data to China.

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39.187 - 43.43 Sean Rameswaram

Long live China. Long live Xi Jinping. Big up to Mao Zedong.

43.73 - 54.798 Unknown Speaker

China is the best country in the entire world. I love China so much. First off, Mandarin is amazing. Second off, the Chinese Communist Party, yes, communist, is the best government in the entire world. Most transparent government in the entire world.

55.358 - 57.28 Sean Rameswaram

We're going to ask why on Today Explained.

60.182 - 75.265 Travis Larchuk

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75.605 - 89.287 Travis Larchuk

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