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Today, Explained

It’s China’s turn

14 Apr 2025

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China has spent years preparing for this trade war — and for a world no longer dominated by the US. This episode was produced by Miles Bryan, edited by Jolie Myers, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Andrea Kristinsdottir, and hosted by Noel King. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast Support Today, Explained by becoming a Vox Member today: http://www.vox.com/members A store at a Beijing shopping mall displaying its advertising banner. AP Photo/Andy Wong. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0.61 - 8.619 Vice President J.D. Vance

We borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture. That is not a recipe for economic prosperity.

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9.06 - 31.59 Advertisement Narrator

Vice President J.D. Vance defending the Trump administration's tariffs on China hit China squarely below the belt. And China hit back with memes. Cue music. Americans on assembly lines, at sewing machines, in fields, eating chips, drinking coke, looking ill-prepared for factory work, to put it politely, which the memes are not.

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32.29 - 47.957 Advertisement Narrator

China's argument since this trade war began is that America cannot win it. China is tougher, more resilient, and better prepared. On Today Explained, as this trade war escalates, we ask, what if that's true?

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86.064 - 107.422 Megan Rapinoe

Megan Rapinoe here. This week on A Touch More, we are launching our much-anticipated book club, and we're doing it with Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle, who will introduce their upcoming book, We Can Do Hard Things, Answers to Life's 20 Questions. Plus, we've got some fun and important updates from The W and the NWSL, and of course, we've got a new Are You a Megan or Are You a Sue?

107.703 - 111.526 Megan Rapinoe

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116.107 - 118.308 Sean Rameswaram

You're listening to Today Explained.

119.088 - 144.234 Advertisement Narrator

First came the Liberation Day tariffs and nine days of chaos, market swings, Howard Lutnick trying to explain stuff, maybe even to himself, and frantic attempts to calm things down by pausing the biggest tariffs on most countries. But not on China. Dimitri Sevustopoulos, the U.S.-China correspondent for the Financial Times, picks it up as the trade war roared into last weekend.

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