Little Marco’s big portfolio

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What roles does Marco Rubio hold in the Trump administration?

Nihal Toosi 0:24
Also, Marco's the acting head of USAID, which you might recall from early February when USAID was disappearing. The fourth one's the toughest, though. Marco Rubio somehow managed to become our nation's chief archivist. Our biggest question today explained is, does he make forced salaries?
Andrea Kristinsdottir 0:44
I don't know. We've been, like, there are people, reporters, trying to find out the answer to that question.
Nihal Toosi 0:49
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How did Marco Rubio gain Trump's trust?

Devan Schwartz 1:20
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Jolie Myers 1:29
Marco!
Nihal Toosi 1:38
Nihal Toosi wrote about how Marco Rubio became so important at work for Politico.
Josh Keating 1:45
Well, in a way, he did it by not being Marco Rubio. He kind of... abandoned everything that he, or much of what he has stood for in the past, endeared himself to Trump, supported the president vocally and through policy changes, and just, you know, earn the president's trust.
Patrick Boyd 2:11
The president has made his argument as to why he thinks Canada would be better off joining the United States for economic purposes. The president rightly has concluded that the current status of global trade is bad for America and good for a bunch of other people, and he's going to reset it, and he's absolutely right to do it.

What has changed in Marco Rubio's political stance?

Josh Keating 2:26
I will also say it's also kind of hard to get into the Trump circle. There's not a lot of people who meet the loyalty test. And Rubio has proven that he can do that. The reason that it's important to point this out is because when he took the initial position of secretary of state, many people viewed him as one of the weakest in Trump's orbit. I wrote an entire column about how all these people in town were saying, he is not going to last very long. He won't last even six months as Secretary of State. And so the fact that he has climbed the ranks and taken all these positions and earned the president's trust in such a way, that is really remarkable. But it just goes to show how unrecognizable he is compared to what Marco Rubio was, you know, five, ten years ago.
Nihal Toosi 3:21
That's what's so interesting here, I think, right? Because Marco Rubio's been around a long time. When you hear... candidate Donald Trump talking about draining the Washington swamp. It's like people like Marco Rubio, who you could almost picture as representing the swamp. There were reports that he was asking President Biden for more funding for USAID before he became one of the faces of the elimination of USAID. He is not exactly... MAGA. And are you saying that there hasn't been much tension there between Rubio and Trump?
Josh Keating 3:59
Well, you know, Rubio is, I wouldn't say he's like a traditional, traditional Republican. Like he kind of came in on a wave of reactionariness to the establishment. But he, over time, established his bona fides in the Senate as a hawkish Republican, pro-human rights, pro-democracy promotion.
Patrick Boyd 4:26
I've never met Vladimir Putin, but I know enough about him to know he's a gangster. He's basically an organized crime figure that runs a country, controls a $2 trillion economy, and is using it to build up his military in a rapid way, despite the fact his economy is a disaster.
Josh Keating 4:40
Definitely pro-humanitarian assistance.

Why is Marco Rubio's position as Secretary of State significant?

Patrick Boyd 4:43
Anybody who tells you that we can slash foreign aid and that will bring us to balance is lying to you. Foreign aid is less than 1% of our budget. It's just not true.
Josh Keating 4:52
The type of guy who supported Ukraine.
Patrick Boyd 4:55
I think the first and most important thing we need to do is we have to help the Ukrainian people.
Josh Keating 4:59
wants to be tough on dictatorships around the world, including Iran. And he ran against President Trump in 2016 for the presidency. And the president, Trump back then, nicknamed him.

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