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Will Trump's Strategy Work? - Liam Halligan

19 Mar 2025

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1.155 - 20.882 Liam Halligan

You know, outside of the political hurly-burly, you know, the cool, calm market analysts, they're thinking, well, this is going to cause inflation. This is going to stall the American economy. You've now actually got some really respectable people on Wall Street and beyond predicting a U.S. recession. I think in my bones, he's still using tariffs because he wants to influence different outcomes.

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21.182 - 42.797 Liam Halligan

He doesn't want Russia and China getting close together, or he wants to help to prise them apart by bringing Russia back at least some way towards the Western orbit. But the rhetoric coming out of China is unlike anything I've ever seen in 20 years. If you mess with China in the way it is, then you could do irreparable damage. You could spark military conflagration. That's my concern.

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45.7 - 67.126 Konstantin Kisin

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119.178 - 134.969 Francis Foster

Liam Halligan, our go-to guy for all things economics. We want to talk to you about the tariffs. We want to talk to you about the British economy. And you have a very particular insight into the civil war that's happening inside of reform as well. We'll touch on that at the end. But first of all, let's talk about the Trump tariffs.

135.169 - 149.458 Francis Foster

One of the things I think quite a lot of us assumed is this is just talk, right? He's going to claim he's going to put some tariffs on in order to get people to do what he wants, but we're not actually going to have tariffs. Is that what's happening, or are we actually going to have a trade war of the kind that people fear?

149.998 - 166.665 Liam Halligan

Well, it's the old sage's response to anything that Trump does, isn't it? Take him seriously, but not literally. This is just a bargaining ploy. And I still think there is an element of that. But in order to be taken seriously, if not literally, he has to at least put some tariffs on for a while.

167.345 - 190.805 Liam Halligan

And yet what we're seeing is even though he says, you know, tariffs are the most beautiful work in the dictionary... I love tariffs. His actions suggest that he's actually blowing hot and cold, except, it seems, when it comes to China. And that's my proviso. We'll come on to that. So obviously, he talked about 25% tariffs on both Canada and Mexico in his inauguration speech.

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