Truth in the Barrel | Devil’s Cut | In Conversation With Annie Jacobsen Amy and Denver talk to Annie Jacobsen, writer or television’s Jack Ryan series and author of “Nuclear War : A Scenario” about our status regarding nuclear proliferation, Donald Trump’s “Golden Dome” project and the overall likelihood of a nuclear winter. *This episode was recorded on April 21, 2025, and aired on May 06, 2025. About Truth in the Barrel: Amy and Denver are both military veterans, political junkies, and whiskey lovers who sit on opposite sides of the aisle but have one thing in common: they love the United States of America. Truth in the Barrel was born of Amy & Denver’s commitment to country, the Constitution, and a well-curated collection of the world’s finest bourbon. Join them weekly for deep dives into timely topics, interviews with recognizable guests, and a dose of call-in fun. Visit Our Website: www.TruthintheBarrel.com Subscribe to Truth in the Barrel: https://www.youtube.com/@TruthIntheBarrel Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0JQcSj5mwVyGDJ8DcXwlu9?si=5f2bd1d1b0c64e6f Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/truth-in-the-barrel/id1804092329 Instagram, BlueSky, Facebook, TikTok: @TruthintheBarrel
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Hi, everyone. Welcome to Truth in the Barrel, Devil's Cut. I'm Amy McGrath with Denver Riggleman. Today, we are talking more about nuclear weapons and nuclear war. Why? Because it is a super important issue that we need to understand a lot more about. If you take us back to the Cold War, we had two nations that built up massive arsenals of nuclear weapons that could be launched in the air.
They could be launched from the ground or from the ocean. And we had massive arsenals of bigger and bigger bombs, okay? And over time, In the 1960s, we had serious leaders in this country and in the Soviet Union that decided, hey, this isn't smart. The destructive power of these weapons is so big that a war itself would destroy all of us. So let's try to limit some of these weapons.
And that was the start of arms control. and so you might think well the cold war is over and so we don't have to deal with this stuff anymore that is not true we have actually multiple threats and a very complex world with china and russia having nuclear weapons rogue states like north korea now having nuclear weapons the potential for iran and in the current age of donald trump
We have our allies and partners now thinking they might need to get nuclear weapons. And so we have to talk about all of this stuff. So joining us today is an amazing author of a book called Nuclear War, a Scenario. Her name is Annie Jacobson, and we're going to bring her in to talk about nuclear weapons and what Americans need to know right now.
Doesn't get better than this.
And there she is. Welcome to our special guest, Annie Jacobson, author of Nuclear War, a Scenario. And I'll just start out. I'm not going to ask the first question, Annie. Denver is going to do that. But I just have to tell you, I've studied nuclear weapons for a long time. And your book was fantastic.
the best book I have ever read that could really portray the destructive power of these weapons to everyday Americans. So thank you for being on our show, Annie.
Thank you so much for having me.
And, Annie, I tell you, you know, reading the book, you brought me back. I'll tell you that because, you know, my background, United States Air Force to NSA, then I did joint special projects.
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