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Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Ep 1019 | Jase Uncovers a Big Jesus Controversy & What to Do If Your Spouse Feels Like Your Enemy

08 Jan 2025

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Jase wins an argument by metaphorically becoming one with the wind and poses a question: “What is the most controversial thing Jesus ever did?” Jase, Zach, and Al illustrate how to work on yourself to make your life, marriage, and family look more like Jesus, even when things seem like they’re falling apart. Plus, what did Mary think about Jesus’ ministry and miracles? In this episode: Romans 8, verse 28; Galatians 3, verse 26; Galatians 4, verse 19 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1.813 - 26.072 Jase

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. We've kind of been talking about the last podcast, this idea of a new year, the idea that for me, I've been using the term to know Jesus better. Jason's been talking about Jesus stuff. How do we make Jesus stuff applicable? When are we going to do the Jesus stuff?

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26.172 - 46.179 Al

That was my point. Right, right, right. As a church, as a family, as an individual. Because I'm just saying, when you read the Gospels and then look at your life, there should be a profound determination. Does my life look like Jesus? I have his spirit in me, right?

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46.219 - 67.259 Jase

Right. And I like the idea. So you ended the last podcast by telling the story about you apologizing to Missy, which, by the way, we should never get too far along in life. We can't apologize to anybody. Right. Especially people we love the most. But I love the idea because I was thinking the exact same thing, Jace. When you first become a Christian, when you go all in, you believe you surrender.

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67.299 - 85.71 Jase

There is a point in time where we just get to that point where it's unmanageable where we are and we give in. And for some people, that's very young. Some people, it's older. Some people have stuff in between. I call it the proclamation of intention. In other words... I'm proclaiming I want to be a follower of Jesus.

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86.11 - 105.608 Jase

And according to Ephesians 1.13, when that happens, we receive the Spirit of Christ. We are included in Him. It says we're marked in Him with the deposit of our resurrection, the Holy Spirit. But then, and I brought up Ephesians 1.17.18. For me, it was just kind of my theme verse for this year, even though we're going to be studying John.

106.377 - 130.574 Jase

There's this idea that if we have a spirit of willingness, now that we've made our intention, I call that the process of integrity. In other words, it takes time to build integrity. You mentioned 34 years in marriage with Missy. For Lisa and I, it's been 40 years. It's been a process. And look, there's been some rough times and there's been some amazing times. But over the course of the time,

131.271 - 139.053 Jase

There's an integrity for both of us that's grown, and that's the process of growth in Christ. That's what should be happening. We shouldn't look at the end.

139.073 - 155.036 Jase

When we get down to the end of our lives, like mom and dad have been together 60 years now, and I'll watch them, and man, the integrity they have for each other and their relationship with God, that's the way we want it to be as we get closer to the end. The biblical word for that is sanctification.

155.156 - 166.209 Zach

There you go. It's being freed. progressively from the power of sin over the span of your life. And that's something that happens in measure as you walk and grow in maturity.

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