RFK Jr. Tapped To Head HHS, Trump & Government Bonds, Biden Meets Xi In Peru

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Who is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and why is he leading HHS?

Michelle Martin 0:02
President-elect Trump wants Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to lead the Department of Health and Human Services. Kennedy is a vaccine skeptic who's pushed conspiracy theories, so how would he handle a department overseeing public health?
Steve Inskeep 0:13
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Michelle Martin 0:34
And President Biden sits down with China's Xi Jinping in Peru for their last meeting before Biden leaves office. there is actual work to do in this critical moment to ensure that we don't run into any problems biden is focused on keeping relations steady during a delicate transition of power will their meeting help maintain stability stay with us we'll give you the news you need to start your day
Michelle Martin 1:02
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. will be nominated by President-elect Trump to run the Department of Health and Human Services.
Steve Inskeep 1:08
The environmental advocate and vaccine skeptic made many claims during the presidential campaign. He said he will drastically reduce rates of chronic disease in just two years. He also spread several conspiracy theories. While chatting with the podcast host Joe Rogan, RFK Jr. said Wi-Fi causes cancer. While talking on X with Elon Musk, he claimed that school shootings are linked to antidepressants. And elsewhere, RFK questioned the link between AIDS and HIV, which is the virus that causes it.
Michelle Martin 1:37
Joining us to tell us more about Kennedy's background and what his confirmation could mean for the agency is NPR health policy correspondent Selena Simmons-Duffin. Selena, good morning. Good morning, Michelle. So obviously many people have heard of Kennedy. He's part of a very famous Democratic political family that includes the former president, John F. Kennedy. But tell us more about him as a public figure.
Well, most recently, he ran for president as an independent before dropping out in August and endorsing Trump, who's been enthusiastically using his Make America Healthy Again line. Kennedy is an attorney. He went to Harvard in the 70s and got his law degree at UVA. He struggled with drug addiction, and it was actually an arrest for heroin possession in the 80s that led to volunteering with the Natural Resources Defense Council to fulfill community service hours. That led to a whole career in environmental advocacy, and around 20 years ago, he got interested in vaccine conspiracy theories, especially in the disproven link between vaccines and autism. That has been a huge focus of his work and life since then.
Michelle Martin 2:36
Okay, so what about the agency he would be in charge of? Give us a tour of the Department of Health and Human Services.
So HHS is enormous. It's got one of the biggest budgets in the federal government, $1.7 trillion. That's trillion with a T. That's about the GDP of Australia. And within HHS are a lot of health agencies. Medicare and Medicaid are under HHS. So is the Food and Drug Administration, the National Institutes of Health.

What are the implications of Trump's economic proposals?

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, those are probably the health agencies people hear the most about. But there are all these other agencies, like one that runs community health centers across the country. There's another for mental health. In all, HHS employs about 90,000 people across these agencies. Trump has promised to let Kennedy, quote, go wild on health and dramatically shake things up.
Michelle Martin 3:24
Do we have any idea of what Kennedy going wild on health might look like?
Well, he recently said he'd like to fire 600 NIH employees. He's talked a lot about rooting out corruption. Some of his ideas are pretty mainstream, like promoting nutritious foods and addressing chronic disease. He said he wants to ban prescription drug advertisements. He rightly points out that American life expectancy is really pretty bad and lags behind other wealthy countries by a lot. But he has some views that are really far out of the mainstream. We've talked about vaccine skepticism. Current CDC director Mandy Cohen wrote to NPR yesterday, quote, I don't want to go backwards and see children or adults suffer or lose their lives to remind us that vaccines work, and so I'm concerned, unquote.

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