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Trump and Zelenskyy Feud, DOGE Savings Claims, Hamas Releases Four Hostage Bodies

20 Feb 2025

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A look at the roots of the difficult relationship between President Trump and President Zelenskyy. DOGE says its saved taxpayers billions of dollars. How do these claims stack up against the evidence? And Hamas returns the bodies of four Israeli hostages held in Gaza since the October 7, 2023 attack.Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today's episode of Up First was edited by Dana Farrington, Padmananda Rama, Didi Schanche, Reena Advani and Janaya Williams. It was produced by Ziad Buchh, Nia Dumas and Christopher Thomas. We get engineering support from Stacey Abbott and our technical director is Carleigh Strange. Our Executive Producer is Kelley Dickens.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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0.993 - 2.114 Steve Inskeep

I finally got a good night's sleep.

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2.455 - 3.956 Michelle Martin

Really? How come? How? How'd you do it?

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3.976 - 5.218 Steve Inskeep

Well, I mean, it wasn't enough hours.

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5.238 - 6.159 Michelle Martin

Whatever you can tell me.

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6.219 - 13.167 Steve Inskeep

No, I slept. I slept. Well, what you do is you sleep badly for several nights in a row. Uh-huh. And then you're so tired.

13.187 - 13.728 Michelle Martin

I'm so tired.

13.748 - 14.228 Steve Inskeep

You crash.

14.248 - 15.129 Michelle Martin

He has to, yeah.

15.49 - 15.93 Steve Inskeep

Exactly.

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